Tuesday, 30 August 2011

Mga Nagturo na Tao si Cristo Sumabog daw ang mga Bituka?

Si ARIUS, isang PARI na nagturo at nanindigan na
hindi Diyos si Cristo


Ating pagbibigyan ang Request ni Bro. Ryan Caro, isang dinodoktrinahan sa INC.


Isang MANG-UUSIG sa INC na ang pangalan ay JORGE SOLIMAN ang NAGPOST sa FACEBOOK na may pamagat na ganito:


THE DEATH OF JUDAS, ARIUS, AND FELIX

Ganito ang sinasabi sa kaniyang POST:


“JUDAS DEATH:


Acts 1:18 Judas had bought a field with the money he received for his treachery. Falling headfirst there, his body split open, spilling out all his intestines. 


ARIUS DEATH:


Socrates Scholasticus (a detractor of Arius) described Arius's death as follows:It was then Saturday, and...going out of the imperial palace, attended by a crowd of Eusebian [Eusebius of Nicomedia is meant here] partisans like guards, he [Arius] paraded proudly through the midst of the city, attracting the notice of all the people. As he approached the place called Constantine's Forum, where the column of porphyry is erected, a terror arising from the remorse of conscience seized Arius, and with the terror a violent relaxation of the bowels: he therefore enquired whether there was a convenient place near, and being directed to the back of Constantine's Forum, he hastened thither. Soon after a faintness came over him, and together with the evacuations his bowels protruded, followed by a copious hemorrhage, and the descent of the smaller intestines: moreover portions of his spleen and liver were brought off in the effusion of blood, so that he almost immediately died. The scene of this catastrophe still is shown at Constantinople, as I have said, behind the shambles in the colonnade: and by persons going by pointing the finger at the place, there is a perpetual remembrance preserved of this extraordinary kind of death.[27]


FELIX MANALO DEATH:


"On April 2, the doctors worked on Manalo again to sew back part of his intestines which had BURST and HEMORRHAGED. On April 11, they performed a third surgery on him. It proved to be the last." [PASUGO MAY-JUNE, 1986, p. 21.]


Why they all have something to do with intestine?• The rupturing of Judas's belly and intestines (Acts 1:18–19) inspired accounts of heretics and other betrayers of Christ like Arius, Felix Manalo dying with blood and/or guts coming out of their anuses. In the twelfth century this anal bleeding was exegetically linked to Jewish deicidal bloodguilt via the verse "may His blood be upon us and upon our children" (Matt 27:25).


It is an account of their punishment of Judas, Arius and Felix Manalo that even after their deaths, their poisonous teachings still linger...what a symbolic horrible deaths given by the Wrath of God to those who twisted His Words for their self profit.


These people have the same deaths, same teachings!”

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Masyado lang malikot ang imahinasyon ng mga taong nagsasabi ng ganiyan, iyan ay isang lumang tuligsa. Tandaan mo ang argument nila. Pinalalabas nila na kaya PUMUTOK DAW DIUMANO ANG BITUKA ng KA FELIX ay dahil sa siya daw ay NAGTURO ng ARAL na si CRISTO ay TAO at hindi Diyos?

At inihambing nila kay JUDAS, paano ba namatay si JUDAS?

Acts 1:18  “With the money he received from the wrong he had done, he bought a piece of land where he fell headfirst to his death. HIS BODY SPLIT OPEN, AND ALL HIS INTERNAL ORGANS CAME OUT.” [God’s Word Bible]

Sa Filipino:

Gawa 1:18 “Sa pamamagitan ng salapi na kaniyang tinanggap mula sa kasamaang kaniyang ginawa, bumili siya ng isang kapirasong lupa kung saan siya ay nahulog ng una ang ulo sa kaniyang kamatayan. ANG KANIYANG KATAWAN AY NABIYAK, AT ANG LAHAT NG KANIYANG LAMANG LOOB AY LUMABAS.”

Oh kita mo iyan? Ganiyan ba kamatayan ni Ka Felix? Tsaka mapapansin mo na hindi naman pumutok ang bituka ni Judas, lumabas ang kaniyang lamang loob nung siya ay nahulog ng una ulo. Nabiyak ang kaniyang katawan, bunga ng pagkahulog. At alam naman ng lahat na NAGPAKAMATAY si JUDAS, kaya hindi MAHIWAGANG KAMATAYAN iyan. Talagang nangyayari iyan kapag nahulog ka sa mataas na lugar, gaya halimbawa ng bangin, talagang magkakapira-piraso ka kapag bumagsak ka sa ibaba, bakit hindi mo subukan magiting na nagpost ng ganito sa FACEBOOK.

Bakit kaya ba namatay si JUDAS, ay dahil sa itinuro niya na ang PANGINOONG JESUCRISTO ay tao? Iyan ang kanilang dapat na patunayan at sagutin sa atin.

Dahil kung hindi niya iyan mapapatunayan lalabas na kasinungalingan ang sinabi niyang ito sa kaniyang post:

“These people have the same deaths, same teachings!”

Tandaan mo, hindi namatay si Judas dahil sa pagputok ng kaniyang bituka. Namatay siya dahil sa pagkahulog bunga ng kaniyang pagpapakamatay.

Tapos inihambing pa nila kay ARIUS, na namatay din daw dahil sa pagputok ng bituka, na bunga daw ng kaniyang pangangaral na si Cristo ay hindi Diyos.

Basahin mo ito:

“Meanwhile Arius was ordered to appear before the Emperor, and asked whether he was willing to sign the Nicaene decrees. He replied, without hesitation, that he was ready to do so. And yet, the very day before he was to be readmitted to communion, Arius died suddenly, and in a most remarkable manner, as Socrates Scholasticus (c380 - c450 A.D.), whose account was written nearly a century after Arius’ death, describes:

“It was then Saturday, and . . . going out of the imperial palace, attended by a crowd of Eusebian [Eusebius of Nicomedia is meant] partisans like guards, he [Arius] paraded proudly through the midst of the city, attracting the notice of all the people. As he approached the place called Constantine’s Forum, where the column of porphyry is erected, a terror arising from the remorse of conscience seized Arius, and with the terror a violent relaxation of the bowels: he therefore enquired whether there was a convenient place near, and being directed to the back of Constantine’s Forum, he hastened thither. Soon after a faintness came over him, and together with the evacuations his bowels protruded, followed by a copious haemorrhage, and the descent of the smaller intestines: moreover portions of his spleen and liver were brought off in the effusion of blood, so that he almost immediately died. The scene of this catastrophe still is shown at Constantinople, as I have said, behind the shambles in the colonnade: and by persons going by pointing the finger at the place, there is a perpetual remembrance preserved of this extraordinary kind of death.”

The nature of Arius’ death was so violent that it begs the questions: Was Arius murdered? After struggling against the Orthodox church for sixteen years, did Arius really acknowledge the Nicene (Nicaean) decrees so readily? THE DESCRIPTION OF HIS DEATH WOULD SUGGEST THAT HE HAD PROBABLY BEEN GIVEN A POWERFUL POISON IN A SLOW DISSOLVING FORM WITH SOME FOOD AND DRINK WHILE BEING IN AUDIENCE WITH THE EMPEROR, THIS WOULD PRODUCE THE DELAYED AND MOST DEVASTATING END (A METHOD OF POISONING PERFECTED BY THE ROMANS), and would have given the impression of Divine retribution while at the same time destroying any chances of Arius becoming a Martyr. If God was going to punish Arius for heresy, then on the one hand surely he would have struck him down sooner before Arianism had drawn more followers throughout Europe than the Orthodox church! And on the other hand, why strike him down at all? God’s judgement and punishment is meted out on Judgement Day, which calls into question such an extraordinary death. HAD HE BEEN SUFFERING FROM A SEVERE CANCER THEN HE WOULD HAVE BEEN GRAVELY ILL AND INCAPACITATED IN THE MONTHS BEFORE HIS DEATH, HOWEVER ALL REPORTS SUGGEST THAT ARIUS WAS IN GOOD HEALTH EARLIER THAT DAY BEFORE SUDDENLY BEING TAKEN ILL ON HIS DEPARTURE FROM THE IMPERIAL PALACE. HISTORY IS WRITTEN BY ITS VICTORS! 

“After fighting the trinitarians for over 15 years with such conviction, great success and popularity, and winning the argument against the attempt to compromise through Semi-Arianism, and had stood up to the Nicaeans as well as the Emperor of Rome; it is wholly out of character and illogical that Arius would simply turn into a coward and betrayer on a whim! IT IS A FACT THAT ARIUS WAS LURED TO THE IMPERIAL PALACE HAVING RECEIVED ASSURANCES OF BEING BACK IN EMPEROR CONSTANTINE’S FAVOUR. THE ACCOUNT THAT THEN FOLLOWED IS SIMPLY PROPAGANDA BY THE ROMAN CATHOLICS PURELY TO ATTEMPT TO EMBARRASS ARIUS’ REPUTATION AND INFER DIVINE RETRIBUTION. THE FACT WAS THAT ARIUS WAS AN 80 YEAR OLD MAN WHO WAS TRICKED BY CONSTANTINE I (WHO KNOWS WHAT ARIUS WAS SUBJECTED TO BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS OF THE IMPERIAL PALACE?), BY HIS EXTREMELY VIOLENT DEATH HE WAS CERTAINLY THE VICTIM OF POISONING, A VERY COMMON AND WELL PRACTICED METHOD USED BY THE MURDEROUS PAGAN ROMANS…”


Maliwanag na pintautunayan ng artikulong iyan na NILASON si ARIUS ng mga kumakalaban sa kaniya.  Hindi naman nakapagtataka iyan, dahil talaga namang may batas na silang ituring na kaaway ang sinomang kumakalaban sa HUWAD nilang PANINIWALA na si CRISTO ay Diyos.

Ganito ang sabi ng isang aklat:

“Once this “Nicene Creed” had been publicly signed by all the bishops and promulgated by Constantine, it became the official creed for all Christians.  TO DENY THE DIVINITY OF CHRIST IN ANY WAY WAS TO PUT ONESELF OUTSIDE THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY AND WAS A CRIME AGAINST THE STATE.” [The Emerging Church: Part One, page 110 ]

Sa Filipino:

“Sa sandaling ang ‘Kredo ng Nicea’ ay hayagang nalagdaan ng lahat ng mga obispo at naipahayag ni Constantino, yaon ay naging opisyal na kredo para sa lahat ng mga Cristiano.  ANG PAGTATATUWA SA PAGKA-DIYOS NI CRISTO SA ANUMANG KAPARAANAN AY KATUMBAS NG KUSANG PAGHIWALAY NG ISANG TAO SA KOMUNIDAD NG MGA CRISTIANO AT ISANG KRIMEN LABAN SA ESTADO.”

Itinuturing na kaaway ng Simbahan at isang KRIMEN sa ESTADO ang sinomang magtuturo na si Cristo ay hindi Diyos, ganiyan ba ang pamamaraang itinuturo ng Diyos sa pagpapalaganap ng kaniyang mga aral? Ang daanin sa dahas at pilitin ang tao na tanggapin ang aral? Kasi nga hindi ito totoo kaya, kailangan ipilit sa tao eh.

Sa Katotohanan ay hindi naniniwala ang mga UNANG CRISTIANO na Diyos si CRISTO.

Puntahan ang kumpletong pagtalakay dito:



KITANG-KITA EBIDENSIYA NA SILANG TATLO AY IBA-IBA ANG DAHILAN NG KANILANG KAMATAYAN.

Ang sakit na ikinamatay ng Ka Felix ay Ulcer, at ito’y matagal na niyang iniindang karamdaman sabi nga ng kaniyang source:

"On April 2, the doctors worked on Manalo again to sew back part of his intestines which had BURST and HEMORRHAGED. On April 11, they performed a THIRD SURGERY on him. It proved to be the last." [PASUGO MAY-JUNE, 1986, p. 21.]



Kita mo sabi diyan, tatlong beses na siyang na-opera sa sakit niyang ito. Kaya hindi masasabi na MAHIWAGA o BIGLAAN ang kaniyang KAMATAYAN.

Isang katotohanan na maayos niyang NAIHANDA ang IGLESIA, bago ang kaniyang PAGPANAW noong 1963.

Bakit siya nagka-ULCER? Alam mo ba kung bakit? Mas mahalaga kasi kay Ka Felix na magampanan ang kaniyang tungkulin kaysa sa pagkain.

Job 23:12  “AKO'Y HINDI HUMIWALAY SA UTOS NG KANIYANG MGA LABI; AKING PINAGYAMAN ANG MGA SALITA NG KANIYANG BIBIG NG HIGIT KAY SA AKING KAILANGANG PAGKAIN.”

Nakukuhang hindi kumain ng sugo, huwag lang maipagpaliban ang kaniyang tungkulin na itinuring niyang pinakamahalaga sa lahat.

ANG KANIYANG NAGING KARAMDAMAN AY EBIDENSIYA NG KANIYANG NAGING KATAPATAN SA KANIYANG TUNGKULIN.

Natural tao siya, kaya iginupo siya ng katandaan at karamdaman.

Makikitid lang talaga ang utak ng mga alagad ng Dilim na mapagimbento ng kung anong haka-haka at palagay, kasi nga hindi nila tayo kaya sa ARAL, kaya kung anu-anong PANINIRA ang INIIMBENTO nila para mapinsala ang INC.

12 comments:

  1. Idadagdag ko lang na HINDI naman AKTUWAL na nasaksihan ni SOCRATES SCHOLASTICUS na nabuhay noong 380-450 A.D., ang kamatayan ni ARIUS na namatay noong TAONG 336 A.D. 44 years ang pagitan ng kamatayan ni Arius sa pagkapanganak kay SOCRATES. Kaya tiyak na nagtanong-tanong lamang siya ng mga detalye ng istoryang ito sa iba, dahil hindi niya naman ito nasaksihan.

    Galit sila kay ARIUS, kaya magagawa nilang sumulat ng isang kuwento para ito siraan para mapagtakpan ang PANLALASON sa kaniya. At hindi imposible iyon. Sabi nga ni JORGE SOLIMAN si SOCRATES ay DETRACTOR ni ARIUS, at kapag isa kang detractor, hindi ka magsasalita ng ikabubuti ng taong kinakalaban mo.

    Gaya ng INC, na maraming DETRACTORS, na walang ginawa kundi siraan tayo ng siraan…

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  2. Maraming maraming salamat sa iyo, Kapatid na Aerial. Napakabuti mo... Pagpalain ka nawa ng Diyos Ama at ng Panginoong JesuCristo!

    Salamat talaga sa mga sagot na ito. Dahil sa iyo, mas lalong tumibay ang aking pananampalataya na sa loob ng Iglesia Ni Cristo ang tunay na kaligtasan!

    God bless po, Kapatid!

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  3. hahaha nakakatawa naman mga utak tukmol na nagsasabi nian?

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  4. namatay si ka felix dahil sa halos kalahati ng buhay nya nilingkod nya sa INC. Halos di na sya kumakain at nalilipasan sya ng gutom.

    "He toiled day and night, with hardly any rest and sleep, he suffered from lack of proper nourishment. He personally supervised the lokals, attended to members problems, conducted nightly evangelization in different places and spent long hours preparing Bible lessons for the services. Soon, as a result of too much suffering and sacrifice, he vomited blood, indicating his lungs had been damaged. His once robust, proud body, forced beyond its capacity for endurance, was utterly vitiated.

    But Manalo, then only 28, did not give up. He prayed fervently to God for help, exercised regularly and increased his food intake."

    pero sa huli, talagang ewan ko ba nainfluence ako sa sinabi ni kafelix, na totoo naman nabago pananaw ko nung nabasa ko sinabi nya:

    ""Doctors can cure only those who are not yet to die, not those whose time has come." "

    pagpapakumbabang loob talaga ni ka felix, may pampagamot kung tutuusin eh, kaso totoo naman kung madugtungan ang buhay siguro 2 to 5 years na lang at matanda na rin ka felix...

    mga korning tirada lang nila yan eh o.a, wala na bang bago?^^

    salamat bro.aerial sa pagsagot sa ganito

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  5. Salamat din Kapatid na Readme sa karagdagang info, tungkol sa KA FELIX.

    Hindi tayo titigil hanggang makakaya natin na SAGUTIN at PATUNAYANG SINUNGALING ang mga sumisira sa BANAL AT MALINIS NA PANGALAN ng IGLESIA NI CRISTO at sa SUGO NG DIYOS SA MGA HULING ARAW.

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  6. Nice post bro. Lets be open to those who are truly searching.

    Wala na po tayong magagawa sa mga nadaya na ng kanilang maling unawa.

    Itinulad nga po sila sa mga hayop na walang bait.

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  7. ano po ba fb account ng taong yan para iblock ko sa facebook

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  8. Salamat ng marami sa nakakamangha na pagsasaliksik ninyo!
    Kita-kita tayo sa Bayang Banal!
    More blessings to come for all of you!

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  9. sa lahat po ng hindi pa inc..magtanong po kayo kahit ano,at tiyak na masasagot ang mga gumugulo sa inyong isipan..huwag po kayong matakot dahil kahit gaano man ya karami ang inyong katanungan ay hindi naman kayo maging inc kasi tanong lang naman iyan,magsuri po kayo at pagka naintindihan niyo po ay mag inc kayo..salamat tanong lang po kayo at BIBLIA po ang sasagot sa pamamagitan ng pagbasa ng mga ministro

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  10. Nice post ka aerial's ang galing nyo talagang mag paliwanag..

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  11. [ Masyado lang malikot ang imahinasyon ng mga taong nagsasabi ng ganiyan, iyan ay isang lumang tuligsa. Tandaan mo ang argument nila. Pinalalabas nila na kaya PUMUTOK DAW DIUMANO ANG BITUKA ng KA FELIX ay dahil sa siya daw ay NAGTURO ng ARAL na si CRISTO ay TAO at hindi Diyos?

    At inihambing nila kay JUDAS, paano ba namatay si JUDAS?]

    aminin na lang ninyo at tapos ang kwento!

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  12. Si Ka Felix,namatay sa sakit sa bituka at tumangging magpagamot dahil sa pagmamahal niya sa Iglesia.

    Samantalang si Francis,nagtatatakbo papuntang NAIA makauwi lang ng Vatican dahil sa bagyo.

    Sino mas mahal ang mga hinirang ng Diyos?

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