Tuesday, 6 December 2011

The Works of Righteousness that God will not Justify


    PEOPLE who are promoting the “FAITH ALONE MOVEMENT” and of course Eric (our Blog’s number 1 Fan and Supporter) who is promoting the “YOUR FAITH and YOUR WORKS can NOT SAVE you MOVEMENT”, have similar belief that WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS or WORKS OF THE LAW, is NOT seen as RIGHTEOUS or JUSTIFIED by GOD.  And of course in order to convince people in this belief, they are using VERSES from the Bible, to prove that what they are preaching are WORDS of GOD and to make it appear that their beliefs and teachings are BIBLICAL.


These are the VERSES:

Titus 3:5  “NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;” [King James Version]

Galatians 2:16  “yet knowing that A MAN IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.” [American Standard Version]


In the first instance by just merely looking at these verses it would appear that they have a point, and what they are trying to prove were really written in the Bible. 

Well of course if we have a HABIT of just PICKING UP only the VERSES that will agree with what we believed and IGNORE the others, it would mean that we don’t believe in the ENTIRETY of the written words of God in the Bible.

We should follow the Rule that Eric suggested, for this is the APPROPRIATE MOVE:

“WE SHOULD NOT IGNORE VERSES”

The only problem is,  ERIC is the FIRST and FOREMOST  who defies his RULE hehehehe.

Why did I say that they do not believe in the Bible’s entirety by picking up verses that only they think agrees and ignoring those that they think do not?  Because if they would interpret those verses as the way they interpret and explain them, meaning without further researching on what are their TRUE MEANING, it would appear that in the Bible there are CONTRADICTIONS.

Let us see the following verses that will CONTRADICT their EXPLANATION and UNDERSTANDING.

Regarding WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS:

Psalms 106:3  “BLESSED ARE THEY that keep judgment, and HE THAT DOETH RIGHTEOUSNESS AT ALL TIMES.” [KJV]

Acts 10:35  “but in every nation he who is fearing Him, and IS WORKING RIGHTEOUSNESS, IS ACCEPTABLE TO HIM;” [Young’s Literal Translation]

1 John 3:10  “In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: WHOSOEVER DOETH NOT RIGHTEOUSNESS is NOT OF GOD, neither he that loveth not his brother.” [KJV]

As we can see very clearly see from those passages above that God will BLESS, ACCEPT, and consider His CHILDREN anyone who will do the WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS.


Regarding the WORKS OF THE LAW:

James 1:25  “But whoso looketh into the PERFECT LAW of liberty, and continueth therein, HE BEING NOT A FORGETFUL HEARER, BUT A DOER OF THE WORK, this man shall be blessed in his deed.” [KJV]

It is very clear also that not the FORGETFUL HEARER but the DOER OF THE WORK will be blessed.

Which work?  Of course the WORKS of the LAW.

It means when we do the WORKS of the LAW, we are OBEYING THE LAW. We are not only listeners, but we are doers of the LAW.

For it is a COMMANDMENT of the Almighty God:

Leviticus 18:4  “OBEY MY LAWS and DO WHAT I COMMAND. I am the LORD your God.” [Good News Bible]

And those who will not obey His LAWS are committing a SIN:

1 John 3:4  “WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN TRANSGRESSETH ALSO THE LAW: FOR SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF THE LAW.” [KJV]

So what is the meaning of TRANSGRESSION? Let us get the meaning from another Bible version:

1 John 3:4  “Those who live sinful lives are disobeying God. Sin is DISOBEDIENCE.” [GWT]

So TRANSGRESSION means DISOBEDIENCE to the LAWS of GOD.

If we’re going to go back to the people who believed in their INSTANT LITERAL INTERPRETATION of Galatians 2:16 and Titus 3:5,  and accept how they UNDERSTOOD these verses, it would appear then that God has put a man in a situation where he will not be saved. Because it would appear that God commanding us to do the things that he consider being NON RIGHTEOUSS or JUSTIFIED.

What is that? Was it not mind boggling?

 It’s like God has commanded us humans to Go to a Ravine and Jump there and die.

Look at this, If God will not JUSTIFY or will not consider RIGHTEOUS the WORKS OF THE LAW and RIGHTEOUSNESS, why the Bible which is the WORDS of GOD said that if we will not do the WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS we are not consider as His Children or if we do not OBEY THE LAW we are sinful.

It would be like we are in a TWILIGHT ZONE…in a puzzle that’s very hard to comprehend.

If we do the WORKS of the LAW or OBEY THE LAW we are also BLESSED, and not considered as SINFUL but we are not JUSTIFIED or seen as RIGHTEOUS.

“BLESSED, and NOT SINFUL BUT NOT JUSTIFIED nor RIGHTEOUS”

And similar to WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, if we do the WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS we are ACCEPTABLE, BLESSED, AND CONSIDERED AS HIS CHILDREN, and yet we are NOT RIGHTEOUS nor JUSTIFIED.

“ACCEPTABLE, BLESSED, AND CONSIDERED AS CHILDREN OF GOD BUT NOT JUSTIFIED nor RIGHTEOUSS”

So the solution of those people: Keep their UNDERSTANDING and INTERPRETATION of Galatians 2:16 and Titus 3:5 since they are in accordance with their beliefs and IGNORE those verses we’ve shown that are in CONTRAST in what they believed.

That’s why you’ll never see them using those verses, and if only given the chance and possibility we are sure, they would ERASE them from the Bible.

Because of this we can ask now, look who’s ISOLATING VERSES, ha Eric?

We no so very well that the WORDS of GOD will NEVER CONTRADICT ITSELF nor it will create CONFUSION, for God is not the AUTHOR of CONFUSION:

1 Corinthians 14:33  “For GOD IS NOT THE AUTHOR OF CONFUSION, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.” [KJV]

It’s very clear that we can conclude that God will not speak or do things to CONFUSE us. For His WORDS written in the BIBLE are upholding UNITY and ONENESS of TOUGHT because ALL of them came from ONLY ONE GOD, so they will never ever contradict each other.

So let us DIG DEEPER to Galatians 2:16 and Titus 3:5’s TRUE MEANING, for they should not contradict other verses that we have shown.


The WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS That God Will Not Justify

Let us quote again the verse:

Titus 3:5  “NOT BY WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE HAVE DONE, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;” [King James Version]

The people who are using this passage were just focusing on the phrase “WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS” but deliberately ignoring the phrase: “WHICH WE HAVE DONE” that follows after.

What is the meaning of that specific phrase? Let us read the same verse in another Bible version:

Titus 3:5  “not by works done in RIGHTEOUSNESS, WHICH WE DID OURSELVES, but according to his mercy he saved us, through the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost,” [ASV]

It is clear that this is the RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH WE DID OURSELVES,  it means we are the CREATOR, MAKER, FABRICATOR and SOURCE of this RIGHTEOUSNESS and not GOD.

Was there a proof of this from the Bible? That we humans CREATED or ESTABLISHED our own RIGHTEOUSNESS? Of course, look and see for yourselves:

Romans 10:3  FOR THEY BEING IGNORANT OF GOD'S RIGHTEOUSNESS, AND GOING ABOUT TO ESTABLISH THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS, have not submitted themselves unto the RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.” [KJV]

See Eric, according to Apostle Paul who also wrote Titus 3:5, there are people who are IGNORANT of GOD’s RIGHTEOUSNESS and instead of submitting themselves to the RIGHTEOUSNESS which God has CREATED, THEY ESTABLISH THEIR OWN RIGHTEOUSNESS.

And these are the WORKS OF RIGHTEOUSNESS that we DID, CREATED, ESTABLISHED by ourselves THAT GOD WILL NOT JUSTIFY nor consider as RIGHTEOUSS, because these does not comply with GOD’s RIGHTEOUSNESS which is the WORD of GOD [Psalms 119:172].

What are those WORKS of RIGHTEOUSNESS that we humans have done as a result of our IGNORANCE to GOD’s RIGHTEOUSNESS or His Words?

Romans 10:3  “They have not known the way in which God puts people right with himself, and instead, THEY HAVE TRIED TO SET UP THEIR OWN WAY; and so they did not submit themselves to God's way of putting people right.” [GNB]

Apostle Paul said: “THEY HAVE TRIED TO SET UP THEIR OWN WAY”, instead of submitting themselves to GOD’s WAY or RIGHTEOUSNESS.

These are the WORKS that we base not on the RULES or LAW of GOD written in the BIBLE, but the RULES  we ESTABLISHED and CREATED for ourselves and we decided to follow and consider for ourselves as RIGHTEOUS, those are the things that GOD will never consider as RIGHTEOUS nor JUSTIFY.


The WORKS OF THE LAW That God Will Not Justify

Let us go back to the verse that they use that we quoted earlier regarding this:

Galatians 2:16  “yet knowing that A MAN IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed on Christ Jesus, that we might be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the law: because by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.” [American Standard Version]

Which WORKS OF THE LAW were being referred here that God will not be JUSTIFIED? Let us get the full context and reasons why Apostle Paul said this message to the Gentile Christians of Galatia.

Let us read the PRECEDING VERSES and you will see what I mean, that those people using this passage were just JUMPING IN A WRONG CONLUSION.

Gal 2:11  “But when Peter came to Antioch, I OPPOSED HIM TO HIS FACE, BECAUSE HE WAS TO BE BLAMED.”

Gal 2:12  “For before certain men came from James, he would eat together with the Gentiles; but when they came, he began to draw back and began to separate himself, FEARING THOSE OF THE CIRCUMCISION PARTY.”

Gal 2:13  “And the rest of the Jews joined him in hypocrisy, so that even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy.”

Gal 2:14  “But when I saw that they did not act rightly with respect to the truth of the gospel, I said to Peter before them all, "IF YOU, BEING A JEW, LIVE IN GENTILE FASHION AND NOT IN JEWISH FASHION, WHY DO YOU COMPEL THE GENTILES TO LIVE AS JEWS?”

Gal 2:15  “We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,

Gal 2:16  “knowing that A MAN IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW but through faith in Jesus Christ, even we believed in Christ Jesus, so that we might be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the law; because no flesh shall be justified by the works of the law.”

There is a story behind that was often OVERLOOKED and NEGLECTED by the people who use Galatians 2:16.  The very History that took place when this letter was written by Apostle Paul, they are DELIBERATELY IGNORING.

Always remember my beloved viewers that this LETTER BY APOSTLE PAUL was addressed to the GENTILE CHRISTIANS OF GALATIA (Not to you Eric, and those people who use that verse, keep that in mind). There are SIGNIFICANT ISSUES here that we should consider. Apostle Paul mentioned about the CIRCUMCISION PARTY and a question which he addressed to Apostle Peter which says: “WHY DO YOU COMPEL THE GENTILES TO LIVE AS JEWS?”

Therefore we should consider the meaning and intention of Apostle Paul why he said that message, and we should not give our own meaning. For that will DISTORT the TRUE MEANING of the message.

Based on the EVIDENCES that we have seen from the Previous passages, we could say that the “WORKS OF LAW” that are being mentioned by Apostle Paul is a kind of LAW that would make the GENTILES live like a JEW. Because he said this to Apostle Peter:

“WHY DO YOU COMPEL THE GENTILES TO LIVE AS JEWS?”

And by this important phrase came out our LEAD in determining the TRUE MEANING of Galatians 2:16:

For the information of those who do not know, when the CHURCH OF CHRIST in the First Century propagated in the Gentile Nations, A PROBLEM ARISES between the JEWS and the GENTILES and this is recorded in the Scriptures:

Acts 15:1-2  “Some men came from Judea to Antioch and started teaching the believers, "YOU CANNOT BE SAVED UNLESS YOU ARE CIRCUMCISED AS THE LAW OF MOSES REQUIRES." Paul and Barnabas got into a fierce argument with them about this, so it was decided that Paul and Barnabas and some of the others in Antioch should go to Jerusalem and see the apostles and elders about this matter.” [GNB]

Acts 15:5  “But some believers from the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT JEWISH MUST BE CIRCUMCISED AND ORDERED TO FOLLOW MOSES' TEACHINGS." [GWT]

The JEWISH CHRISTIANS were requesting the CONVERTED GENTILES to follow the LAW OF MOSES about CIRCUMCISION, they are commanding the GENTILES to be CIRCUMCISED, and Apostle Paul disagree and argued with Peter regarding this issue. And this has created a dispute between brethrens among JEWS and GENTILES, that their solution was to go to JERUSALEM and settle the matter in front of the CHURCH ELDERS. And as we continue to read the rest of the verses in the same chapter, Apostle James stood up and made a decision which he said:

Acts 15:19-20  “Therefore I judge that WE MUST NOT CAUSE TROUBLE FOR THOSE WHO ARE TURNING TO GOD FROM AMONG THE GENTILES;   but that we write to them to abstain from things polluted by idols, and from sexual immorality, from things strangled, and from blood.” [English Majority Text Version]

And the decision of the Church turn out to be in FAVOR of the GENTILES for they are no longer required to obey the WORKS OF THE LAW that are trying to impose or implement by the JEWS to the GENTILES.

This is the WORKS OF THE LAW that are being mentioned by Apostle Paul in Galatians 2:16 that will not be JUSTIFIED, it is the LAW OF MOSES – “THE LAW THAT WILL MAKE A GENTILE LIVE LIKE A JEW” and  the GENTILES no longer needed to obey this LAW.

And Apostle Paul himself, directly said that in the Bible:

Acts 13:16, 38  “Then Paul stood up, and beckoning with his hand said, Men of Israel, and ye that fear God, give audience…Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:  And by him all that believe are justified from all things, FROM WHICH YE COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW OF MOSES.” [KJV]

Very clearly spoken by Apostle Paul as I quote again:

“FROM WHICH YE COULD NOT BE JUSTIFIED BY THE LAW OF MOSES.”

So this statement that he said in Galatians 2:16 which says:

“…yet knowing that A MAN IS NOT JUSTIFIED BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW but through faith in Jesus Christ,”

“WORKS OF THE LAW” here very clearly refers to the LAW OF MOSES, for it is TRUE that we’ll no longer be Justified by this LAW, for this LAW ends its VALIDITY when JOHN THE BAPTIST was born.

Of course this TRUTH is recorded in the Bible, and NOT MY OWN WORDS:

Luke 16:16  "The LAW OF MOSES and the writings of the prophets WERE IN EFFECT UP TO THE TIME OF JOHN THE BAPTIST; since then the Good News about the Kingdom of God is being told, and everyone forces their way in.” [GNB]

We will never be JUSTIFIED anymore in our time if we still continue to follow and to do the WORKS OF THE LAW of MOSES, for that LAW is only IN EFFECT before the TIME of JOHN THE BAPTIST.

And that’s how we should UNDERSTAND Galatians 2:16, not from our own ANGLE or POINT OF VIEW, but from the ANGLE or POINT OF VIEW of Apostle Paul who said it, for that is really what he meant in that message.

And that meaning will NEVER CONTRADICT any other passages from the Bible for sure.


So by giving a FALSE EXPLANATION to the letter of Paul to the Galatians you Eric, and others are bringing destruction to yourselves, as Apostle Peter emphasized:

2 Peter 3:15-16  “Look on our Lord's patience as the opportunity he is giving you to be saved, just as OUR DEAR FRIEND PAUL WROTE TO YOU, using the wisdom that God gave him. This is what he says in all his letters when he writes on the subject. THERE ARE SOME DIFFICULT THINGS IN HIS LETTERS WHICH IGNORANT AND UNSTABLE PEOPLE EXPLAIN FALSELY, AS THEY DO WITH OTHER PASSAGES OF THE SCRIPTURES. SO THEY BRING ON THEIR OWN DESTRUCTION.” [GNB]

So before you attempt to INTERPRET any of  the messages written in Paul’s LETTERS think twice because maybe instead of bringing out the TRUTH you might end up bringing DESTRUCTION to your own self.

God bless to all brethrens in Christ Jesus…

276 comments:

  1. good day po bakit po nawala na yung blog ni brod readme?

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  2. Bro. Aerial, favor naman po, biglaan po kasi, pwede po bang ipost nyo sa blog ko na yung readmeinc.blogspot.com ay wala na.

    www.readmeiglesianicristo.blogspot.com na po ito. napindot ko kasi agad nakalimutan kong iinform sila maraming salamat po^^

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    1. oo pwede, basta yung burat ni ka felix ipopost mo ng maayos.

      huwag mong ilagay yung iyutan nila ha, para medyo focus kay ka felix yung burat habang pinapasok sa puki

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  3. SHAME on this CHURCH9 December 2011 at 01:09

    Aerial

    Ill POST this here as this is a NEWER thread you have created and I want to make sure it doesnt get lost at the BOTTOM of some other thread!!


    INC HANDBOOK


    Manual for NEW members of the Church of CHRIST

    Iglesia Ni Cristo

    1989

    3rd paragraph..

    `NOW you are a PART of the BODY of our LORD JESUS CHRIST.. The CHURCH of CHRIST....................................

    with the earnest HOPE(??)you shall be among those who will meet HIM??


    A BOLDFACE CONTRADICTION in the FIRST paragraph that an INC member receives from your SUPPOSED ONE TRUE CHURCH??


    TO be of the BODY of JESUS is to be SAVED!!!

    No if ands or BUTS about it

    If you are INDEED of the BODY of JESUS you had your SINS PAID for BY JESUS and

    Will be with GOD in the NEW HEAVEN!!


    But what does INC say?


    WAIT.. MAYBE .. HOPEFULLY


    you will see HIM??


    WRONG!!!!!


    LIES!!!


    If one is of the BODY of JESUS there is no more HOPING and WISHING one is going to meet HIM


    ITs a DONE DEAL!!


    INC doesnt EVEN know the CONTRADICTIONS they lay RIGHT from the GET-GO to these UNSUSPECTING LOST SHEEP!!


    MAY GOD have MERCY on your souls for all of the DECEPTIONS you have CREATED!!

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  4. I'm sorry Eric, but we cannot be saved by your opinion and Assumptions.

    Sorry for we cannot believe in your teaching without Biblical Proof for that were just MAN-MADE.

    It's quite clear that your Beliefs were just based from your ASSUMPTIONS, OPINIONS, and FALSE INTERPRETATIONS of the Bible. Like this thread has clearly showned.

    May the Father the only True God, have mercy on you, because if you will continue like this, you may not see the great day of Jesus Christ second coming as the one saved.

    God bless all of you my fellow brethrens.

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    1. Haven't you notice any of the MAN-MADE teaching your INC leaders have created? And claims the Church Admin has the right to make such rules! Any rules altered or added or subtracted from the Words of God is a violation of God's Law.

      But again the Church Admin has that authority.... yeah right!

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  5. CATHERINE GET out of this FALSE CHURCH9 December 2011 at 16:24

    Catherine


    WHAT are you TALKING about??


    Is NOT what I just CITED as to the INC handbook true?

    You teach a newly water baptized MEMBER that he or she is a PART of

    The BODY of JESUS?

    But in the SAME paragraph. you say that one must HOPE he or she will see JESUS in the END??


    Thats so CONTRADICTIORY its LAUGHABLE


    TO BE OF THE BODY of JESUS


    1. IS TO BE ELECTED by GOD

    2. IS to be WASHED or CLEANSED of SIN

    3. is TO be SAVED from ETERNAL SEPARATION from GOD

    4. IS a FINAL WORK.. DONE DEAL


    Then INC says HOPEFULLY??? one will be amomg those who SEE JESUS in the END??


    WHAT???


    This is BASIC BIBLE STUDY PRINCILPES 101


    To be of the BODY of JESUS is to have had sweet JESUS PAY for your SINS!!


    THus what HOPING would be REQUIRED??

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    1. PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY JUDAS WAS NOT A DONE DEAL? HE WAS BAPTIST AND A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH OF CHRIST... BETTER YET, HE WAS PICKED BY CHRIST HIMSELF.

      WAITING FOR YOUR INTELLIGENT RESPONSE...

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  6. Hello Eric,

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  7. hello KHafi


    Whatevr you are Sniffing or SNORTING or MAINLINING into your veins...



    STOP now before its too LATE!!

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  8. Eric you said:

    "Then INC says HOPEFULLY??? one will be amomg those who SEE JESUS in the END??"

    So for you it is wrong or no longer necessary to HOPE that we will see JESUS CHRIST in his second coming, right? Would you confirm this? That it is no longer necessary to HOPE?

    Can you define FAITH, Eric? Can you show me a Biblical Definition of the word "FAITH"?

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  9. SEE the DIFFERENCE CATHERINE??10 December 2011 at 06:03

    Catherine

    You are IGNORING what your church TEACHES


    Your own HANDBOOK says by virtue of being WATER baptized and a MEMBER of the CHURCH of CHRIST

    One is PART of the BODY of JESUS

    That DECLARATION is CONTRADICTED by the ensuing statement that


    HOPEFULLY one will be with CHRIST on the DAY of HIS SECOND COMING


    I know EXACTLY why they say this


    That ONLY in the END will the CHURCH be PURIFIED and ONLY those will be SAVED


    But once one declares one is of the BODY of JESUS as INC says in their HANDBOOK


    That statement implies one is SAVED


    To be of the BODY of JESUS is to BE SAVED


    There is no HOPE in seeing JESUS on HIS RETURN

    IF ONE is of the BODY!!!

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  10. eric the confused...

    so... are you member of that church?...i asked

    God opened my eyes to the BIBLE.. so HOPEFULLY YES...answered Eric

    hahaha...

    lol...

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  11. maganda ang blog...
    ang husay m nmn sna kcng galing mo rn aq!
    KASO MARAMI PA PO AKONG KAKAININ NA BIGAS
    pero kapatid my blog k b about negative effects of indecency and sexual revolution
    at iyong john 21:7(KJV) ano po b ung reaction dun ni apostle peter, out of shame kya cia tumalon o dhl ignagalang nya ung presence ni lord jesus christ?

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  12. Compare ALL SCRIPTURE13 December 2011 at 18:48

    Aerial


    As usual . like a trained INC minister. you choose to cite just a FEW of the verses that are pertinent to the topic.

    But Bible study 101 demands that, BEFORE ons come to a conclusion on any verses or verses, that CONCLUSION must be Viewed in LIGHT of the ENTIRE bible and any RELATED verses.


    1. Romans 3:10

    `THERE is NONE RIGHTEOUS.. No Not ONE``


    NONE is NONE

    Not one being is RIGHTEOUS(JUSTIFIED by WORK or DEEDS to be SAVED)


    Romans 3:11

    ` There is NONE that UNDERSTANDETH

    NONE that SEEK GOD`


    how could any mans WORKS of ANY kind be JUSTIFIED or seen RIGHTEOUS in God`s eyes

    IF there is NONE that SEEK God

    how could EVER the DEEDS or works of him or her be RIGHTEOUUS or JUSTIFIED??

    Answer: IMPOSSIBLE


    if we have FAITH(JESUS) in our life ,its a GIFT from GOD

    That GIFT is given to ONLY the ELECT


    Once that GIFT has been bestowed upon the ELECT

    Then that person will have an INTENSE desire to do the WILL of GOD

    Then and ONLy then will his or her works be seen as WORTHY as GOD has SEEKETH them

    We as humans are all DEAD in OUR TRESPASSES

    As i have illustrated to you before but you always IGNORE


    The story of LAZARUS is Historical

    And SYMBOLICAL


    LAZARUS was a DEAD stinking CORPSE

    He could do NOTHING to aid ih HIS SALVATION


    We as humans are DEAD SPIRITUALLY

    UNTIL God blesses us with MERCY and GRACE and FAITH(JESUS)

    FAITH is a RESULT of GOD`s WORK


    So JUST as LAZARUS was PHYSICALLY DEAD

    We are all SPIRITUALLY DEAD!


    GOD WILL SEEKETH US!! if HE so chooses

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  13. http://www.catholicpoint.blogspot.com

    mas mukhang may sense at may factual basis lahat hindi kinuha sa HAKA-HAKA O KURO-KURO LANG.

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  14. Happy Year End ThanksGiving Everyone!!!!! Aerial thanks for this!

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  15. http//www.catholicpoint.blogspot.com

    nice shots against the doctrine of so called "apostasy"

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  16. ang walang sense ay ang catholicpoint.blogspot..puro sariling opinion at kabulaanan.

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  17. (Call Me X-Catholic)

    Tama po kayo na walang sense ang catholic.blogspot..puro paninira lang po yon.puro character assasination...walang batayan sa Biblia.
    Hindi po Biblical mga post doon ng mga catholics....

    Bakit po kaya?
    Sapagkat itinuro po ng Biblia na ang magpapakilala o magtuturo sa tao ng mga karunungan o aral ng tunay na Dios ay ang Iglesia....Efeso 3:10
    Ganito po nakasulat;
    "Upang ngayo'y sa pamamagitan ng IGLESIA,ay maipakikilala sa mga pamunuaan at sa mga kapangyarihan sa sangkalangitan ang kapuspusan ng karunungan ng Dios".
    Ito po ang dahilan kaya hindi po makapagtuturo ng dalisay na aral ng Dios ang mga Katoliko...

    Ang isa pang katunayan na wala sa katoliko ang pagka alam sa mga karunungan ng Dios ay ang kanilang doktrina ukol sa Trinidad nila.
    Kapag ito ay kanilang ipinagtatanggol ay gumagamit kunyari sila ng mga verses sa Bible bilang patunay ng kanilang maling paniniwala dito.pero wala po silang mababasa sa Biblia na Magpapatunay na ang Espiritu Santo ay Dios..Sapagkat ayon po sa aral nila sa Trinidad,maroon pong tatlong persona sa iisang dios(dios Ama,dios Anak,at dios Espiritu Santo) ang tatlong personang ito daw po ay pantay pantay at di nagkakaungusan.Hinahamon ko po lahat ng mga katoliko na mag banggit kahit isang verse lang po sa Biblia na nagsasabing ang Espiritu Santo ay Dios...(wala po nito).
    Ang isa pa pong kamalian ng aral ng Trinidad ay ang pagkakapantay-pantay daw po ng Ama ,Anak,at Espiritu Santo.
    Sa Biblia po ang Ama ay "Isang Dios at Ama ng lahat,na Siyang sumasa ibabaw ng lahat,at sumasa lahat,at nasa lahat".Efe.4:6
    Pansinin po natin ...Ama lamang po,ay mayroon ng iisang Dios(tunay na Dios),hindi po nangangailangan ng Anak at Espiritu santo para mabuo ang iisang tunay na Dios.
    Ama-------Iisang tunay na Dios.
    Ang Ama po ay Siyang sumasa ibabaw ng lahat.
    Magkapantay po ba sila ng ating panginoong Jesukristo.,gaya po ng aral ng trinidad?
    Hindi po..maling mali po ang aral ng trinidad ukol dyan..
    Ano po ang katunayan?
    Pahayag po mismo ng ating Panginoong Jesukristo na ang Ama ay mas lalong dakila kaysa kaniya..Juan 14:28.

    Jn.14:28
    "Narinig ninyo kung paanong sinabi ko sa inyo,Papanaw ako,at paririto ako sa inyo.Kung ako'y inyong inibig,kayo'y mangagagalak dahil ako'y pasasa Ama:sapagkat ang Ama ay lalong dakila kay sa akin".

    Magkapantay po ba ang Ama at ang Anak(Cristo)?
    Hindi po. Ang Panginoong Jesukristo po mismo ang may sabi na "ang Ama ay lalong dakila kay sa akin".
    Kaya ang aral po ng katoliko ukol sa Trinidad ay wala po sa Biblia,at hindi lamang po wala...kundi salungat pa po sa Biblia.

    Kapagka sila po ay nasusukol dito at hindi na po kayang ipagtanggol ang kanilang aral ukol sa Trinidad ay kukubli agad sila sa kanilang tinatawag na misteryo..kesyo mahirap daw pong unawain ang mga salita ng Dios lalo na ang ukol sa Trinidad. Kahit daw po ang papa sa roma o ang pinaka matalino nilang mangangaral ay nahihiwagaan daw po ukol sa trinidad...Misteryo daw po ito..

    Kapagka ganito po ang kanilang palusot,ay nakakalusot na nga po ba sila?
    HINDI PO!
    Manapa, ay lalo po silang nababaon.
    Bakit po?
    Sapagkat sa loob po ng tunay na Iglesia ay ipinagkaloob ng Dios sa pamamagitan ng ating Panginoong Jesukristo ang pagkaalam sa mga hiwaga(kasama na ang sinasabi nilang misteryo),subalit sa mga nasa labas ng Iglesia,kagaya ng katoliko ay ginagawa ang lahat ng mga bagay sa pamamagitan ng mga talinghaga o misteryo.
    Katunayang hindi po sa Dios ang katoliko at wala sa kanila ang mga aral ng Dios.

    Marcos 4:11-12
    "At sinabi niya sa kanila,Sa inyo ay ipinagkaloob ang makaalam ng hiwaga ng karunungan ng Dios:datapuwat sa kanilang nangasa labas,ang lahat ng mga bagay ay ginagawa sa pamamagitan ng mga talinghaga:"
    "Upang kung magsitingin sila'y mangakakita,at huwag mamalas;at kung mangakinig sila'y mangakarinig,at huwag mangakaunawa;baka sakaling sila'y mangagbalikloob,at patawarin sila".

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    Nawa ay kahabagan po ng ating Panginoong Dios ang mga taong nasa loob ng katoliko/katolika..at bigyan po ng magandang pagkakataon na maging kaanib sa tunay na Iglesia..sa Iglesia Ni Cristo,kagaya po ng aking pamilya at ng iba pa..

    Kagaya po ng pahayag sa Apoc.18;4
    "At narinig ko ang ibang tinig na mula sa langit,na nagsasabi,mangagsilabas kayo sa kaniya,bayan ko,upang huwag kayong mangaramay sa kaniyang mga kasalanan,at huwag kayong magsitanggap ng kaniyang mga salot:"

    Labas na po kayo sa Iglesia Katolika Apostolika Romana hanggang may panahon pa po.

    Salamat Po!

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  19. brod, makisuyo kung totoo ba yung claim nitong nasa blog na nabasa ko

    www.catholicpoint.blogspot.com

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  20. (Call Me X- Catholic)

    Wala po yang katotohanan...lahat po ng nasa www.catholic.blogspot.com.ay pawang paninira lamang at katha ng mga pari/cfd ng catholic...

    Magsuri pokayo sa Iglesia Ni Cristo...pumunta po kayo sa mga local o kapilya ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na malapit sa inyong lugar at magtanong po kayo sa mga ministro at manggagawa ng Iglesia Ni Cristo upang malinawan po kayo ukol sa mga aral ng Dios.

    Salamat Po!

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    ANG ILAN SA MGA ARAL NG IGLESIA KATOLIKA NA NAGPAPATUNAY NA SILA AY TUMALIKOD SA TUNAY NA DIOS:


    *Kailanman at mayroon pong aral ng Dios na nilabag ang tao,ito po ay pagtalikod na sa Kaniya.


    1.ANG PAGSAMBA NG IGLESIA KATOLIKA SA MGA LARAWAN AT REBULTO.

    Ito po ay tahasang paglabag sa mga aral ng Dios na nakasulat sa Biblia na kagaya po ng mababasa sa Exodo 20:3-5.

    "Huwag kang magkakaroon ng ibang mga dios sa harap ko."

    "Huwag kang gagawa para sa iyo ng larawang inanyuan o ng kawangis man ng anomang anyong nasa itaas sa langit,o ng nasa ibaba sa lupa,o ng nasa tubig sa ilalim ng lupa:"

    "Huwag mong yuyukuran sila,o paglingkuran man sila;sapagkat akong Panginoon mong Dios,ay Dios na mapanibughuin,na aking dinadalaw ang katampalasanan ng mga magulang sa mga anak,hanggang sa ikatlo at ikaapat na salin ng lahi ng
    mga napopoot sa akin;".


    Dito po ay napakalinaw na ipinagbabawal ng Dios ang pagsamba sa mga larawan at rebulto.Ang totoo,paggawa palamang po nito ay ipinagbabawal na ng Dios.

    Ang sabi po Niya"huwag kang magkakaroon......huwag kang gagawa para sa iyo ng LARAWANG inanyuan....".

    Ano pa po ang ipinagbabawal ng Dios ukol po sa mga larawan o rebulto?

    Ang sabi po ng Dios "HUWAG mong YUYUKURAN sila,o PAGLINGKURAN man sila..."

    Hindi po ba't ganito nga ang ginagawa ng iba, Lalo na po ang mga kaanib sa Iglesia Katolika?

    Hindi lamang po sila gumagawa o nagkakaroon ng mga rebulto o larawan ng mga santo nila,ito po ay NIYUYUKURAN O NILULUHUDAN NILA SA KANILANG MGA PAGDADASAL.

    Hindi po ba't ito rin ay kanilang PINAGLILINGKURAN..?Pinapasan pasan sa mga prosesyon ,hinahalikhalikan at binibihisan?

    Ito po ay hayag na hayag na makikita na ginagawa ng mga kaanib sa Iglesia Katolika..Lalo na po ngayong nalalapit na naman ang kanilang Pista sa tinatawag na Itim Na Nazareno...maraming mga debotong katoliko ang magpoprosesyon ..papasan ng mga rebulto,yuyukod at magdadasal dito.

    Ito po ba ay ipinag-uutos ng Dios?
    HINDI PO.Wala pong talata ng Biblia na nagsasabing gawin ang pagsamba o pagpaparangal sa mga larawan o rebulto.

    Manapa,ito po ay ikinagagalit ng Dios kagaya po ng nakasulat sa talatang 5,

    "...na aking dinadalaw ang katampalasanan ng mga magulang sa mga anak.."

    Ikinagagalit po pala ito ng Dios.
    Isa itong katampalasanan para sa Kaniya.

    Maitatatwa po ba ng Iglesia Katolika ang pagsamba nila sa mga larawan o rebulto?

    Sagot: HINDI PO.

    Ano po ang katunayan?
    Sa kanila pong aklat na pinamagatang ANG PANANAMPALATAYA NG ATING MGA NINUNO na isinulat ni James Cardinal Gibbons,.sa pg. 200 ay ganito ang nakasulat;

    "Sa ganitong kahulugan,sa pagkakilala ko,bumabanggit ang mga manunulat escolastico hinggil sa gayon ding pagsambang iniuukol sa mga LARAWAN ni Kristo na parang kay Kristong Panginoon natin na rin;sapagkat ang gawang kung tawagin ay PAGSAMBA SA LARAWAN ay tunay na pagsamba kay Kristo na rin, sa pamamagitan ng PAGYUKOD sa harap ng LARAWAN na parang sa harap ni Kristo na rin...."


    Bakit hindi po maikakaila ng Iglesia Katolika ang ginagawa nilang pagsamba sa mga larawan o rebulto?

    Ano po ba ang patotoo ng Biblia sa ginagawa nilang pagyukod o pagluhod sa harap ng mga rebulto?

    Ganito po ang pahayag sa Awit 95:6,

    "Oh magsiparito kayo,tayo'y magsisamba at magsiyukod;Tayoy magsiluhod sa harap ng panginoon na May-lalang sa atin".

    Ang pagluhod po ay pagsamba ayon po sa Biblia.

    kaya ang Iglesia Katolika ay sumasamba po sa mga rebulto o larawan.

    Lumuluhod nga po ba sa harap ng mga rebulto o larawan ang mga kaanib sa Iglesia Katolika?

    Ganito po ang patotoo sa kanilang aklat mismo na pinamagatang Catesismo pg.82(ni P.Luis de Amezquita).

    "Pagbangon mo sa banig ay agad kang manikluhod sa harap ng isang Cruz o isang mahal na larawan".

    Ipinag-utos po sa mga katoliko na manikluhod o sumamba sa mga rebulto o larawan na ito po ay tahasang paglabag sa utos ng Dios.

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    ANG PAGPAPAKILALA NG BIBLIA SA GINAGAWANG PAGLUHOD AT PAGSAMBA NG MGA KATOLIKO SA MGA REBULTO AT LARAWAN:


    Ano po ang tawg ng Dios sa mga gumagawa ng mga rebulto at larawang inanyuan para luhuran at sambahin?

    Ganito po ang pahayag sa Isaias 44:9,

    "Silang nangagbibigay anyo sa larawang inanyuan ay walang kabuluhan silang lahat;at ang kanilang mga bagay na kinaluluguran ay hindi mapapakinabangan: at ang kanilang mga sariling saksi ay hindi nangakakakita,o nangakakaalam man : upang sila'y mangapahiya."

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  23. KAWAWA TALAGA ANG MGA KATOLIKO NA SUMASAMBA...LUMULUHOD AT NANALANGIN SA MGA REBULTO AT LARAWAN...

    MAG BULAG ANG MATA,,ISIP AT PUSO..

    KAWAWA NAMAN!

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  24. ISAIAS 44:10-11,15-18

    "Sino ang nag anyo sa isang dios,o bumubo ng larawang inanyuan na di pakikinabangan sa anoman?"

    "Narito,lahat niyang kasama ay mangapapahiya; at ang mga manggagawa ay sa mga tao: mapisan sila,magsitayo sila; sila,y mangatatakot, sila,y mangahihiyang magkakasama".

    "Kung magkagayo,y ilalaan sa tao upang ipanggatong; at kumukuha siya niyaon ,at nagpapainit; oo,kaniyang pinaliliyaban yaon, at ipinagluluto ng tinapay: oo,kaniyang ginagawang
    isang dios,at sinasamba; ginagawa niyang larawang inanyuan,at pinagpapatirapaan."

    "Kaniyang iginagatong ang bahagi niyaon sa apoy;
    ang bahagi niyaon ay ikinakain niya ng karne; siya,y nagiihaw ng iihawin,at nabubusog: siya'y nagpapainit,atnagsasabi,Aha,ako,y naiinitan,aking nakita ang apoy:"

    "At ang labis niyaon ay ginagawa niyang dios, samakatuwid baga,y kaniyang larawang inanyuan:
    kaniyang pinagpapatirapaan at sinasamba,at dinadalanginan,at nagsasabi,Iligtas mo ako; sapagkat ikaw ay aking dios."

    "Hindi sila mangakakaalam,o nagsisigunita man: sapagkat ipinikit niya ang kanilang mga mata,upang sila,y huwag mangakakita;at ang kanilang mga puso,upang huwag silang mangakaunawa."

    BASAHIN PO SANA ITO NG MGA KATOLIKO NA BULAG ANG MGA MATA,,..ISIP AT PUSO.

    GUMISING NA PO KAYO AT UMALIS SA IGLESIA KATOLIKA UPANG HINDI MAPABILANG SA MGA WALANG KABULUHAN..!!

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  25. brod. pwedeng pakisuyo na pakisagot yung mga akusasyon ng catholicpoint.blogspot ngayon hehehe hirap ako sa english kaya hindi ako makapagpost sa blog doon sa makita ko post nyo po

    salamat

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  26. sana makita ko po yung post nyo duon para maipagtaggol ang inc

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  27. many times ko na po sinubukan mag comment sa mga catholic blog spot..pero hindi nila ina accept.

    May mga blog site sila na kailangan pang aprubahan nila bago mai post..pero hindi naman nila i po-post pag hindi nila kayang saguti.

    Bias po ang mga catholicpoint.blogspot

    Magbasa nalang po tayo ng mga sagot po natin sa mga blogsite ng mga kapatid..tulad nitong kay ka Aerial..

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  28. //May mga blog site sila na kailangan pang aprubahan nila bago mai post..pero hindi naman nila i po-post pag hindi nila kayang saguti. Bias po ang mga catholicpoint.blogspot//


    MAY PROOF BA KAYO SA AKUSASYON NYONG ITO? GUSTO KO MALAMAN. O BAKA NAMAN TALAGANG HIRAP LANG KAYO SA ENGLISH HEHEHEHE WAIT KO COMMENT NYO SA http://www.catholicpoint.blogspot.com

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  29. hello anonymous eto proof ko Your comment will be visible after approval. eh di kailangan pa ng approval nyo bago ka magpost....sinungaling ka pala eh....try nyo mga kapatid..

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    1. KAWAWA NAMAN C MIZRACH AT TRUTHSHALLSETYOUFREE NABOBO KAY C.PIO NG WWW.CATHOLICPOINT.BLOGSPOT.COM HEHEHEHEHE TAMEMEME INC KASI KAYA GANOON PURO C FELIX NA MAKASALANAN ANG INIISIP HEHEHEHE

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  30. Just ask "Fr. Abe" ...kung hindi ba totoo ang sinasabi namin na namimili ng comment ang catholic blogs..,

    Sasagutin ka nun ng "siyempre no,..ang hirap kayang sagutin ng ibang mga tanong.."

    HEHEHE..

    Di po ba "Fr. Abe"?...kaya nga po nakalagay..makikita ang iyong comment pagkatapos ma aprubahan...bakit kailangan pang aprubahan?

    Kasi pinipili lang ang mga comments na kaya..

    Hehehe!

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  31. PATUNAYAN NYO NALANG MGA CATHOLIC FAKE DEFENDER NA HINDI TOTOO ANG

    SINASABI NI PROPETA ISAIAS NA WALA KAYONG MGA KABULUHAN DAHIL

    SUMASAMBA,LUMULUHOD,AT NAGDARASAL KAYO SA HARAP NG MGA REBULTO AT

    LARAWAN NA GAWA SA KAHOY AT MGA BATO!

    SA SALING MAGANDANG BALITA BIBLIA (MB),ANG NAKALAGAY PA NGA AY

    "WALANG KUWENTANG TAO" ANG MGA KATOLIKO. NA GUMAGAWA AT SUMASAMBA

    SA MGA REBULTO..

    TSIK! TSIK! TSIK!...KAWAWA NAMAN KAYO..

    WALA PALA KAYONG KUWENTA PARA SA DIOS!

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  32. SI FELIX NA MALIBOG AT NAMBUGBOG NG UNANG ASAWA MASYADO NA KAYONG HIBANG SA UTOT NYA HEHEHEHE

    BAKIT NYO NILALANGHAP YUNG UTOT NI FELIX NA MALIBOG HEHEHE KASI NGA NA BRAINWASH NA KAYO HEHEHEHE ANG BAO NYO TUYOT NA SA UTOT NI FELIX NA MALIBOG HEHEHE

    SI FELIX TAO NA NABULOK ANG KATAWAN AT SINUSUNOG ANG KALULUWA SA IMPYERNO HEHEHE LUMUWA NGA DI BA YUNG BITUKA NYA NA IKINAMATAY NYA HEHEHEHE TAPOS KAYO SINASAMBA NYO SYA BILANG ANGHEL HEHEHE ANGHEL NA MALIBOG HEHEHEHE

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    1. ok lang yan, makaka move on ka rin...

      normal lang talaga ang ganyang pakiramdan...

      sa mga taong katulad mo...

      na kahit anong gawin mo/nyo... ang iglesia ni cristo...

      patuloy sa tagumpay...

      tsk...tsk...tsk...

      ang pait...oo..talagang mapait...

      ang sunod sunod niyong mararamdaman...

      mga ampalaya group...

      bakit?...kasi sabi ng AMA...

      "Ako ang gagawa sinong pipigil"

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  33. papaano mong nasabing malibog si ka felix ha? sya ang huling sugo para sa iyong kaalaman

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  34. (Call Me X- Catholic)

    To Catholic Fake Defender:

    HAHAHA! Nakakaawa talaga kayo..,

    Dahil ba sa hindi niyo matututulan ang sinabi ng DIOS sa

    pamamagitan ni propeta Isaias na "WALANG KUWENTANG TAO ANG MGA

    GUMAGAWA AT SUMASAMBA SA MGA LARAWAN AT REBULTO",..ay magwawala

    na kayo?

    TSIK! TSIK! TSIK! TSIK!

    Patunayan niyo mga Fathers na may mga anak sa labas na mali si

    Propeta Isaias....

    Huwag yong Character Assasination kay ka Felix...na matagal

    namang napatunayang TSISMIS LANG!

    para bang KABAKLAAN lang!

    Parang bang si CENON BIBE at si ABE...hindi daw masama na BAKLA

    sila..

    KADIRI TALAGA MGA BADING!

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    1. KADIRI NOH, AT LEAST SI KA FELIX HINDI BAKLA NANGRAPE PA NGA NG BABAE AT LEAST LALAKI SYA AT KAHIT SABIHING PUMUTOK ANG BITUKA NITO TULAD NI HUDAS AT ARIUS AT LEAST HINDI SA BAKLA NAKADALAWA PA NGA SYANG ASAWA HEHEHE DI BALE TAWAGING MALIBOG OK LANG HEHEHE

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  35. HEHEHE!

    YOU CAN SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT KA FELIX 'Fr. AbE'...,

    (if U r fr. aBE).

    bUT tHE TRUTH reMAINS NA lahat ng yan ay TSISMIS lang!

    kung totoo at napatunayang nang rape ang ka Felix...,

    bakit hindi siya NAKULONG?

    HEHEHE!

    baka ikaw ang NANGRAPE NG LALAKE 'FR. ABE'?


    ABOUT the term...'pumutok ang bituka'...


    KAMANGMANGAN NA BANAT YAN EH!


    LALABAS,lahat ng mmga OBISPO AT PARI ..na ang ikinamatay ay sakit sa BITUKA,..NAG KA ulcer at iba pa..

    eh kagaya din sila ni HUDAS AT ARIU....


    HEHEHE! Sounds gud!...marami pa namang mga pari na ang ikinamatay

    ay ang PAGPUTOK NG BITUKA!

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  36. (Call Me X- Catholic)

    PATUNAYAN NIYO NALANG KASI 'FR. ABE' et al; na MALI SI

    PROPETA ISAIAS NG SABIHIN NIYA NA "WALANG KWENTANG TAO ANG

    MGA(KATOLIKO) LUMULUHOD,SUMASAMBA AT NAGDARASAL SA MGA

    LARAWAN AT REBULTO!


    game!..sige PATUNAYAN ninyo..

    HIHINTAYIN NAMIN.

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  37. HINDI YAN MASASAGOT NG MGA CATHOLICS...


    BUTATA! SILA JAN EH..

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  38. Why do you claim FYM is the "LAST" messenger? I understand he is a messenger but is the word "LAST" IN THE BIBLE OR THE INC IS JUST ASSUMING THIS.

    IS NOT THERE A POSSIBILITY OF MORE MESSENGER(S) TO COME?

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    1. wing222 said..." I understand he is a messenger"...

      thanks for understanding that FYM is a messenger of GOD...

      YOUR QUESTION IS JUST ABOUT THE WORD "LAST"...

      WILL DISCUSS THAT LATTER...

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    2. This "last" is not true, if you read about the daughter of Zion in the book of Isaiah, it says.... God will do something to it. Go see it.

      do you know agree that the daughter of Zion is the INC?

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    3. “MESSENGER”- a person who carries a message ; (ex. Messenger from God (UltraLingua English Dictionary)

      ---One who bears a message; the bearer of a verbal or written communication, notice, or invitation, from one person to another, or to a public body; specifically, an office servant who bears messages. (Online Plain Text English Dictionary)

      --- One who bears a message or an errand; the bearer of a verbal or written communication, notice or invitation from one person to another, or to a public body; one who conveys dispatches from one prince or court to another. (King James Dictionary)

      HOLMAN Bible Dictionary has this to say:

      One sent with a message. Messenger is often used in the literal sense (Genesis 32:3,Genesis 32:6; Numbers 20:14; Numbers 24:12; Deuteronomy 2:26). In an extended sense, the prophets (2 Chronicles 36:15-16; Isaiah 44:26; Haggai 1:13) and priests (Malachi 2:7) are termed messengers in their role as bearers of God's message for humanity.



      Based from the abovementioned definitions, are Brothers Eranio and Eduardo Manalo not messengers having the authority to preach the gospel? OF COURSE THEY ARE!



      Now, to fully understand our stand, let us consult the INC authority:


      Biblically, Christ emphasized in Mark 4:11-12 that there are specific group that was given the right to understand the mystery of God’s kingdom. These are the messengers of God who alone were given the right to preach and, hence, understand the teaching of the Bible (Rom. 10:15)



      Since the time of the early patriarchs, messengers such as Noah, whom Apostle Peter called “preacher of righteousness” (II Pt. 2:5) have been commissioned by God. Likewise during the time of the Israelites, prophets like Jeremiah were appointed by God to declare His words. In spite of their weaknesses and infirmities, they were able to speak God’s words, because He placed His words in their mouths (Jer. 1:4-7, 9)...see next post...

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    4. Aside from the prophets, God also chose Levitical priests to teach His words. It was the duty of these priests to proclaim God;s message. (Mal. 2:7)


      God’s policy of appointing someone to preach His words did not stop with the Levitical priests. The first one to be chosen in the Christian era
      to preach the gospel is none other than Christ. This gift to understand the mysteries of God and the right to preach was also granted to the apostles.



      In these last days, God also gave the gift of understanding the mysteries and the right to preach to His chosen messengers. When Apostle John was writing the Book of Revelation, he saw in a vision what would happen when the world is about to end. The Christian era is divided into seven seals or periods of time. At the end of the sixth seal and the beginning of the seventh, this is what he saw:



      “Then I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God. And he cried with a loud voice to the four angels to whom it was granted to harm the earth and the sea, saying, "Do not harm the earth, the sea, or the trees till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads."(Rev. 7:2-3, NKJV)



      In his vision, Apostle John saw another angel ascending from the east. The word “angel” denotes one who is sent (LK. 1:19)



      Therefore, “angel” refers to the office of the one being sent and not to his state of being. The angel from the east would have the seal of the living God and would not be alone in his sealing function just as the verse states, “till we have sealed the servants of our God on their foreheads.”



      The seal is the Holy Spirit and sealing occurs after those who hear the preaching from the messenger believe and accept the truth. (Eph. 1:13-14) Sealing, therefore, refers to the preaching accompanied with the power of the Holy Spirit. This is what the messenger of God in these last days, Brother Felix Y. Manalo, and his co-workers were duly commissioned to do. But since God’s last messenger passed away, the stewards of God’s mysteries has been the present administration of the Church of Christ under the leadership of the Executive Minister, Bro. Eranio G. Manalo. This includes the ministers and evangelical workers sent by God to continue His last work of salvation.


      They are the stewards of God’s mysteries in these last days. They have been given the right to preach the gospel and seal God’s chosen people until the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. (God’s Message, Nov. 2001, p.5)

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    5. CONCLUSION]

      "MESSENGERS"-- are the ones being sent to preach the gospel. This include Brother Felix Y. Manalo and the ministers and evangelical workers of the Church of Christ. The ministers are also called STEWARDS of God's mysteries in these last days.


      "LAST MESENGER"--is the term that applies to only one person who was the fulfillment of the prophesied "angel" in Rev. 7:2-3 in the person of Brothe Felix Y. Manalo. HE ALONE IS THE LAST MESSENGER OF GOD.]

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    6. Again, the word "last" is unbiblical but an assumption. You think and is made to believe FYM is THE LAST. BUT IT IS NOT TRUTH..

      "Based from the abovementioned definitions OF A MESSENGER... ANYONE COULD BE A MESSENGER. IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE MESSAGE. IF message is a violation of God's law, the message is not from God. you get me point.

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    7. Allow me to give you an example. In Rev 7:1, it speaks of the 4 angels (messenger) the held back the four winds. Those angels if you believe the INC teachings are the BIG FOUR of united states, great britain, Italy and France. They were the leaders.

      The qualify as messenger too.. Why? because they were described in the bible as ANGELS. MEANING messengers.

      I know you get my point.

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  39. Ang kapatid na Felix Y. Manalo ay ang HULING SUGO/LAST MESSENGER.

    Dahil ang PASUGONG ITO na kaniyang pinangunahan ay hahantong na

    sa ARAW NG PAGHUHUKOM.

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    1. and why do you assume this? Is there a verse the says He is the "last" messenger? I understand he is a messenger but the word "last" is unbiblical!

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    2. KAWAWA NAMAN C MIZRACH AT TRUTHSHALLSETYOUFREE NABOBO KAY C.PIO NG WWW.CATHOLICPOINT.BLOGSPOT.COM HEHEHEHEHE TAMEMEME INC KASI KAYA GANOON PURO C FELIX NA MAKASALANAN ANG INIISIP HEHEHEHE

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  40. BAKIT DI MATUTULAN NG MGA CATHOLICS NA SUMASAMBA SILA

    SA MGA LARAWAN AT REBULTO NG GAWA NG TAO?

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    1. di talaga masasagot yan ng mga yan, eh mga mangmang sa biblia ang mga katoliko eh. pero di natin sila dapat sisihin, di naman nila alam yun. pero dapat ng mabasa nilang walang kwenta ang mga sumssamba sa rebulto, di na sila dapat sumamba. kasi yung nakaalam ng mabuti at di ginagawa ay kasalanan. mga pari, 10 years nag-aral sa seminaryo, nagbasa ng biblia, nakasulat na ngang bawl ng Dios ang pagsmba s mga rebulto, ipinag-utos pa din. mga baliktad ang isip, kaliwanagay inaaring dilim, at ang kadilimay liwanag ang turing..

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    2. kinantot ni greg si jane habang ang burat nito ay tigas na tiga at basang basa ang puki naman na isa ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      more on http://www.burningcamel.com

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    3. Sa pangalan ng ating panginoong hesu Cristo masamang espiritu Lumayas ka...

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    4. sa pangalan ni Felix na anghel ng malilibog. umalis ka sa blog na ito.

      O, Felix na sugo ng kaharian ng kalibugan, lumipad ka at dagitin mo ang iyong espiritung naggagala sa blog na ito.

      sa ngalan ni Felix na anghel ng malilibog. lipad!!!!!!!!!!

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    5. Tunay nga na Kay satanas ang taong ito... Sya ang nasa talatang Ito na dapat Layuan ng tunay na cristiano 2 Timoteo 3:1-5  “Datapuwa't alamin mo ito, na sa mga huling araw ay darating ang mga panahong mapanganib.  Sapag-ka't ang mga tao'y magiging maibigin sa kanilang sarili, maibigin sa salapi, mayayabang, mga mapagmalaki, mapag-tungayaw, masuwayin sa mga magulang, mga walang turing, mga walang kabanalan, Walang katutubong pagibig, mga walang paglulubag, mga palabintangin, mga walang pagpipigil sa sarili, mga mabangis, hindi mga maibigin sa mabuti,   Mga lilo, mga matitigas ang ulo, mga palalo, mga maibigin sa kalayawan kay sa mga maibigin sa Dios; Na may anyo ng kabanalan, datapuwa't tinanggihan ang kapangyarihan nito: lumayo ka rin naman sa mga ito.”

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    6. libog ni ka felix ay suma atin lahat.

      ohhhhhhhhhh tugon ng lahat opo sya nga po mano po 3 the movie

      ka felix lipad, ilabas mo libog mo ka felix, para matalo namin ang kapwa satanas mo.

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  41. KAYA TAMA LANG ANG GINAGAWA NG MARAMI...NAGSILAYASAN NA SILA

    SA IGLESIA KATOLIKA!


    GUSTO KASI NILANG MALIGTAS SA ARAW NG PAGHUHUKOM.

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    1. //KAYA TAMA LANG ANG GINAGAWA NG MARAMI...NAGSILAYASAN NA SILA

      SA IGLESIA KATOLIKA!//

      TANGA! NATUTUPAD LANG ANG HULA SA BIBLIA NA DARATING SA HULING ARAW ANG BULAANG PROPETA NA MANGLILINLANG SA MARAMI HEHEHE KAYA NGA DUMARAMI KAYO EH HEHEHEHE

      SI FELIX NA UBOD NG LIBOG ANG KATAWAN NA NAMBUGBOG PA NG UNANG ASAWA KAYA NAKADALAWA TAPOS PUMUTOK ANG BITUKA NA PARANG ISINUMPA TULAD NI HUDAS AT ARIUS ITUTURING NYONG ANGHEL HEHEHEHE BALIW NGA KAYO HEHEHEHE

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    2. brod ang sama ng pananalita mo sa palagay mo inaakay kba ng mabuting budhi at espiritu ng dios sa ganyan mong pahayag..nagkakasala ka magbagong buhay ka maging mababang loob ka at mahinahon hndi ito away sa laman kundi sa espiritu....pati si ka felix sinasabihan mo ng masama ngayun sino ang nasa katuwiran at nasa tama kung ganyan ka magpahayag..ang tuligsain mo ang aming aral at pabulaanan mo ng buong puso at pagtatapat hndi makakasakit ka ng personal na damdamin...

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  42. KAYA SILA PURO PANINIRA KAY KA FELIX...KASI HINDI NAMAN

    NILA KAYANG TUTULAN ANG ARAL!


    ANG PAG-ALIS NG MGA MIEMBRO SA IGLESIA KATOLIKA AT PAG-ANIB

    NITO SA IGLESIA NI CRISTO,AY KATUPARAN LAMANG SA NAKASULAT

    SA BIBLIA SA ISAIAS 43:5-6.

    INILALABAS NG DIOS SA MALING RELIHIYON ANG MGA LINGKOD NIYA,UPANG

    MALIGTAS SA ARAW NG PAGHUHUKOM.

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  43. dito nga po sa lugar namin...halos wala ng Katoliko.


    Ang mga dating tagapagtanggol nila at mga mang-uusig sa

    Iglesia,ay naging mga Iglesia Ni Cristo na.


    PURIHIN ANG PANGINOONG DIOS!

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  44. mga bro normal lang sa mga taong yan na usigin ang inc...

    kung tungkol sa ating mga aral di na nila ito kayang tutulan...

    kaya kung ano ano nalang na kalokohan ang naiisip nila...

    pero di sila magtatagumpay...

    dahil may pangako ang DIYOS sa iglesia...sabi NIYA...

    "Ako ang gagawa sinong pipigil"

    tama... sinong makakapigil?...

    WALA...

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    1. you quote is subjective. The Catholics are still in power ever since. They are obviously false but who can stop them...

      they are still in existence. 1700 years.

      Why? because of unlimited supply of money...

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  46. Nice subject, what you failed to adhere is that all Including the INC is subject to this "righteousness". Do not exclude the INC especially the Church Admin because they too are huge violators of this.

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    1. it have been proven that INC practice not found in the bible. Thursday and Sunday worship is unbiblical. it is man made.

      Another... the INC ten commandments.. unbiblical. especially number 10. Totally out of subject provided verse.

      6 months probation prior baptism... totally unbiblical. total violation.

      What more?

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    2. I forgot to mentioned, the church admin has the power to overrule the words of God, they have the power to amend it.

      Right? At least that is what we are made to believe. Yeah right. fyi, the Words of God are complete, cannot be added or subtracted.

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  48. hahaha..your funny!

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    1. What is funny my beloved brother? I speak the truth.

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  49. prove with verses in the Bible that Thursday and Sunday worship is unbiblical..,

    go...wing222


    hehehe!

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    1. i cannot find it in the bible. Can you?

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    2. They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord's Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity--Acts 2:46 New Living Translation (©2007)

      And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, Acts 2:46 English Standard Version (©2001)

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  50. Your hallucinating wing222!

    hehehe!

    go to hospital!

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    1. I am in the hospital, I work here.

      Can you prove to me in the bible of a thursday worship..

      you cannot.

      I have another one INC violates god laws..

      They failed to teach to tithe. It is a commandment of God.

      What they teach is "give what is in accordance with your hear" but this act of giving is to the poor. Not to the church. the command is 10 percent.

      omission to the law... of God.

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    2. opinion...just your opinion...

      show us biblical evidence...

      or else what you're babbling is just garbage...

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    3. My testimony are not based on opinion, It is based of facts I witness. Any Man Made ruling that is not in the bible is a violation and turn away from God. That is why we will all be surprise on Judgment Day when all facts are reveal.

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  51. you see? your attact against INC doctrine is unbiblical!...you cant find it in the Bible!

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    1. Correct, the very reason I disagree. They teach practices that are NOT in the bible but MAN MADE by the Church Admin.

      Only a true practicing INC member will know this.

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  52. hahaha! very funny...

    10 percent? tithe?

    what verse can we read...that Christ teaching people to do tithing?

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    1. please do not get me started. it is a fact that the people of God are commanded to give 10 percent.

      That what the INC is preaching due to avoid from offending people to join. Why? because most people do not like the word 10%... as usual, most people dislike the commandments of God.

      do you really want me to provide you with tons of verse concerning the 10% law? or you can research this yourself?

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    2. wing222 said..."do you really want me to provide you with tons of verse concerning the 10% law? or you can research this yourself?"

      of course...

      show it...

      show your biblical evidence...

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    3. by the way wing222...

      if tithing is Christ commandment...

      are you practicing/obeying it?

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  53. what verse in the Bible can we read that the true Church is SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH?

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    1. Sorry mate, I am an INC member just like you are, but our difference is I only follow the rules of God found in the bible. Not Man Made rules.

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    2. the true Church is "Church of Christ" that is what the bible says.

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    3. wing222 said..." I am an INC member just like you are, but our difference is I only follow the rules of God found in the bible. Not Man Made rules."

      your a member of "Church of Christ"?

      "Church of Christ"that believed that Christ is true GOD?

      if so...it's not the true "Church of Christ"

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    4. Anghel ng malilibog, ilabas mo kalibugan mo at para matalo ng mga kapatid ang umuusig sa kanila.

      Felix na malibog, lipad hehehehehehe

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  54. You see wing222?

    your head is aching rite?

    hehehe!

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    1. Actually no. I just not like to see my brother depend on the Church Admin to save them. As if they are so crazy diehard to them rather than to God. When the EXE minister visits a locale, the alter the schedule service and have God wait. That is said. Having to have God wait because the church leader is in town... sad sad... I do not like that.

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    2. What is it natural for an INC member like you get defense? rather than giving advise by providing the truth without altering the Words of God. why do INC member start calling names like "go to the hospital" rather than explaining the truth? its like a pattern.

      INC member should be strong in the truth and not reply with insults. if an INC is insulted he should reply with an insult. thats a true Christian.

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    3. you are against inc admin...

      that means you are not a true member of inc...

      "go to the hospital" is not calling names but...

      rather just you giving advise...

      why?...

      you're showing symptom of psychosis...

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  55. Well...prove to me/us that Christ did teach Christians about tithing.

    Go wing222!

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    1. I do not have to prove to you because Christ did not chance the law but the fulfill the law. Christ did not teach any thing about offering. Apostle Paul did. The ancient prophet taught it. If the ancient prophets in the OT are irrelevant, then why read verse from the OT... such as much talents they offered specially during the weeks prior to Thanksgiving Worship Service.

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    2. if you can't prove it...

      what you're babbling is just nonsense...

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    3. Anghel ng malilibog, ilabas mo kalibugan mo at para matalo ng mga kapatid ang umuusig sa kanila.

      Felix na malibog, lipad hehehehehehe

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  56. If u really r a member of the INC....,so what locale r u registered?

    hu is ur resident minister?

    what group r u belong?

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    1. Any why do you what to know? I tell you.

      Us Main big cheese is Bro. Andaya,

      Locate of s. san francisc, District of Northern Cal.

      group 3-1.

      what you are going to tattle tell. Go ahead.

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    2. you are anti inc admin...

      that means your not a true member of the flock...

      you are anti inc beliefs...

      so your just a wolf inside the flock...

      pretending to be one of the sheep...

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    3. wrong again, I am not anti inc admin, I am anti church admin corruption and addition to biblical christian practices. They made up MAN Made Rule for the purpose of control. One should be controled by his own self.

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    4. Yes, to be in the flock or body of christ, one has to believe and practice the laws and commandments of God. No addition, No subtraction, No blah blah. And lastly, No assumption of verse in the bible to make fit to the subject. Like for example the 10th INC commandment. it says, those who went against Moses...
      they were magicians for the Pharohs in Eygpt and are not part of the isrealites. There is no verse that a christian cannot question the Church Admin. That is a fact.

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  57. by the way, our minister is the son of the church fund spender.. Jun Santos.

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    1. wing222 said..."by the way, our minister is"

      see...that's one of the symptom...

      you use the word "our"...

      you loss contact with reality...

      you are against inc admin...

      that means you are not part of the body...

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    2. I say our minister because I am not yet expelled for speaking out. I speak out but the accuse me of rebellion. Why? because they do not want to be exposed. They want all members to NEVER QUESTION. WHich is unbiblical. the 6 months is wait prior baptism is so totally unbiblical but man made. They will answer to God for that. And the misuse of the offerings.

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    3. you're against inc admin and inc beliefs...

      so why wait to be expelled...

      tsk...tsk...

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  58. Anghel ng malilibog, ilabas mo kalibugan mo at para matalo ng mga kapatid ang umuusig sa kanila.

    Felix na malibog, lipad hehehehehehe

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    1. parang ikaw yata yong anghel na malilibog ha?heheheh kasi mga pananalita mo parang libog kana...kawawa ka naman kaibigan para kang walang alam...para kang pangatong na susunugin..hheehehe walang silbi

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  59. simone, u quoted ACt 2:46. What is your point? did I say that I worship god everyday?

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    1. wing222 said..."it have been proven that INC practice not found in the bible. Thursday and Sunday worship is unbiblical. it is man made."

      They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord's Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity--Acts 2:46 New Living Translation (©2007)

      And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, Acts 2:46 English Standard Version (©2001)

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  60. simone.. Yes I practice the 10% that is what I give. that is what the bible says. That is what the people of God gives.

    INC invented too many unbiblical rules and practices.

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    1. if you practice tithing...

      my question is...

      on what church do you give your offerings?...

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    2. I give it to the propriate box the serves the members and NOT the billionairs in the Philippines.

      fyi, the church is the individual having the 'correct' faith and beliefs and practice the commandments of God. These are the church, any law's of God violated is not church of Christ.

      What is your understanding of the Church of Christ?

      Please to not tell me the Church Administration!

      You and I could be the church! What draws us way from disqualified as the church if one of us deviates from the any law's of God.

      No Man can change the law or have the right to change to law, including the Church Admin.

      Now if you believe otherwise, you have the wrong faith and understanding. Like I said, stop depending on the Church Admin and instead depend of God. Because they do not care for your per say, they do not even know you.

      Peace!

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    3. if you practice tithing...

      my question is...

      on what church do you give your offerings?...

      wing222 answered...

      "I give it to the propriate box the serves the members and NOT the billionairs in the Philippines. "

      vs

      "Yes, tithing is what is preached. The offering to God. Not the giving to the poor which we are commanded to give with what is according to our hearts and not give grudgingly. but a cheerful giver."

      TSK...TSK...CONFUSED HUH...

      YOU CAN JUSTIFY YOUR ANSWER IF IN "the propriate box the serves the members"...

      THE MEMBERS ARE NOT POOR BUT RICH...VERY RICH...

      "MAKAULAW KA MET"

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  62. So wing222 admitted that the Apostles teach about monetary contribution inside the Church...

    Is it tithing ?..Did Apostle Paul mention about 10%?

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    1. Apostle Paul never mentioned it because it has already been practiced 10%.. The law in the OT and NT was intact. The only Law that was obsolete is the Sabbath Law.

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  63. Yes, tithing is what is preached. The offering to God. Not the giving to the poor which we are commanded to give with what is according to our hearts and not give grudgingly. but a cheerful giver. Read the verse for yourself. Just do not rely on what is preached or read to you. Stop the yes SIR mentality.

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    1. you're still inside inc...

      that means you practice tithing on a church who don't believed practicing it?...

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    2. The INC basic teachings are correct except for the Man Made rules. Such as

      6 months wait prior baptism.
      twice a week.
      4 different kinds of offering.
      offer any amount you want but be geneorous.
      omission of the 10% law. Deception.
      For Business ( buying useless land)
      Inventing the so called "INC" 10 commandments.

      And Many More.

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  64. No, apostle paul did not provide an amount but if you are to ask, "how much should I offer to God" The answer is the "according to your heart" verse because that verse is for the giving to the poor. The Answer is written all over the bible, in the NT and OT...it is 10%, A proportion of what was blessed to us. Try it, That means. if you earn 100, then you offer 10. it is that simple. Lets say you lost your job. then still give 10% of what you get while search for a new job.

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    1. wing222 said...

      "Yes, tithing is what is preached. The offering to God. Not the giving to the poor"...

      vs


      wing222 said...

      "No, apostle paul did not provide an amount but if you are to ask, "how much should I offer to God" The answer is the "according to your heart" verse because that verse is for the giving to the poor."

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    2. "you're still inside inc...

      that means you practice tithing on a church who don't believed practicing it?...

      ....

      I am very selective in which offering I give. Everyday is thanksgiving worship service. There is no such thing as special Thanksgiving Worship Services. That is mind control invented by the Church Admin.

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    3. the so called end of the year Thanksgiving is sent to the Philippines to be spent in useless properties like SD Scenic (ghost town) (Philippine Area) 500 million dollars. INC is aware of global economic collaspe is imminent and the currency will be of no value.. so the smart move is the turn INC currency into tangible Assets... take it from me, I am in the market of economics and I am good at it.

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    4. wing222 said...

      "Offering to God is 10%.."

      vs

      wing222 said...

      "I am very selective in which offering I give"


      VERY SELECTIVE HUH...

      WHEW...

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    5. wing222 said..."INC is aware of global economic collaspe is imminent and the currency will be of no value.. so the smart move is the turn INC currency into tangible Assets..."

      you said..."SMART MOVE"

      SO WHY ARE YOU TOO MONEY CONCERN?

      DO YOU WANT TO BE THE ADMIN?...

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    6. wing222 said...

      "I am in the hospital, I work here."

      VS

      wing222 said...

      "I am in the market of economics and I am good at it."

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    7. wing222 said...

      "Everyday is thanksgiving worship service. "

      VS

      wing222 said...

      "Another Invented Man Made rules... MID Year Thanksgiving."


      IS MID YEAR NOT A PART ON THE WORD "Everyday"?

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  65. simone... if I get expelled, it should be the violation to Gods law and commandments. Well, I am given a mind to speak and what I speak is the truth about the corruption of the Church Admin. The Church Admin is the biggest violators to Gods laws. The church admin would expell me because I corrected the mistakes they make? that is aburd and wrong. If I should be expelled, it should be If I violate the God's laws. if that is so, all of us should be expelled.

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    1. wing222 said..."if I get expelled, it should be the violation to Gods law and commandments."

      you don't believe on what inc teaches...

      why too scared to be expelled?...

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    2. Actually not, if time comes I get expelled because I refuse to follow the commandments of men aka church administration, then so be it.

      I am the afraid from any MAN tell me I am expelled. This is their control tactic. A church member can only be expelled if they are wicked. I am NOT wicked because I strive very hard to obey the Law's of God..NOT the MAN MADE laws.

      of course the Churhc Admin will say I am wicked. Hmm. for following the law of God and pointing out their MAN Man rules???

      I do not think so... Simone, I am very fearful of God. I do not speak hate to anyone, even if I see member doing wrong things (including ministers) before my eyes. I do not get offended at all such things.

      my background is Catholic and converted in the INC in the 1980's in California USA. I am mixed, European, Spanish and mostly Ilocano.

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    3. wing222 said...

      "I do not speak hate to anyone, even if I see member doing wrong things (including ministers) before my eyes. I do not get offended at all such things. "

      vs

      wing222 said...

      "Well, I am given a mind to speak and what I speak is the truth about the corruption of the Church Admin. The Church Admin is the biggest violators to Gods laws."

      NOT OFFENDED HUH...

      "LASTOG KA"

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    4. I notice a pattern you are looking of a loophole on my quotes. I wonder Why? it is because you know for A fact I am telling you the truth. Any member knows what I am talking about. The Church Admin must be really flabergasted / setup if the read this. Because I am telling the truth.

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  66. wing222 said..."how much should I offer to God"

    offering to GOD means giving to the poor?...

    answer this...

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    1. Offering to God is 10%... lets get that straight. Now..

      the verse the INC use as to how much we should give, and bust out with the verse Cor 15:7..ie "according to your hearts, not grudgingly but Cheerfully. This verse is "NOT" referring to offering to God but to be giving to the POOR... read Verse 9.

      you get me?

      or you are still blinded of the truth? sorry to say but you are giving me the impression you are brainwashed by INC Man Made deception.

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  68. simone... these two verses you provided is good. I do not see a specific day, it says everyday.
    What did the INC invented..Sunday and Thursday. I would have believed if you said the 1st day or Sunday because that is biblical. But adding a specific day such as Thursday or Twice a week is total contra to the teachings of the bible. read it again and compare to INC man made rules.
    They worshiped together at the Temple each day, met in homes for the Lord's Supper, and shared their meals with great joy and generosity--Acts 2:46 New Living Translation (©2007)

    And day by day, attending the temple together and breaking bread in their homes, they received their food with glad and generous hearts, Acts 2:46 English Standard Version (©2001)

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    1. is Thursday and Sunday not a part of the word "everyday"?...

      is worshiping twice a week anti bible?...

      justify your answer using your bible...

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    1. Of course I am still a church of christ because I practice the laws and commandments of God. Unlike the commandments of Men... example the INC Ten commandments is a direct violation of God, especially the tenth man made commandment. Go see on your refrigirator, I am sure it is stuck on a magnet.

      That is why I do not follow what is impart to me if I find it against the will of God.

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    2. wing222 said...

      "Of course I am still a church of christ because I practice the laws and commandments of God."

      vs

      wing222 said...

      "INC Ten commandments is a direct violation of God, especially the tenth man made commandment."

      CHURCH OF CHRIST BELIEVED THAT "INC Ten commandments" IS "the laws and commandments of God."...

      YOU'RE AGAINST IT...MEANS YOUR NOT A CHURCH OF CHRIST...

      CONFUSED HUH...

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  70. Simone... you missed my point concerning tithing. How much should the people of God offer?

    INC man made would be...

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    2 Corinthians 9:7
    Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

    Now, these gift on the verse is to be given to the poor...and not an offering to God.
    Verse 9
    “They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor; their righteousness endures forever.”

    VS..

    offered to God is 10 percent even in the Christain ERA. written all over the OT and NT

    My point is the INC is reluctant to preach the 10% command of God because Church Admin knew it is not a Good Marketing propaganda (aka mission). Why? Because most people is against this Law of God, Why? because it is sensitive matter, MONEY! Therefore they omit this so the they can draw more people which is now qualifies as deception. The INC deception.

    An omission to God's Law is a violation of God and turning away from God.

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    1. Another deception... during the 1980's they preach joining the Church of Christ is a gaurantee to salvation. NOw in recent worship services, they teach otherwise saying Church of Christ membership is not a gaurantee and the your name on the tag board is an inventory list of the members.

      Another Invented Man Made rules... MID Year Thanksgiving. Before, this was non-existence. They figure we need to scam more money from the members. The year end invention is not enough.

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    2. wing222 said..."They figure we need to scam more money from the members. The year end invention is not enough."

      PROVED THIS OR ELSE...

      YOU'RE JUST A TALKATIVE PARROT...

      BABBLING NONSENSE...

      BABBLING NONSENSE IS ONE OF THE SYMPTOM OF PSYCHOSIS...

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    3. Simone... wing222 seems to be reluctant to prove biblically in regards to MID year and End Year Thanksgivng. Can you provide biblical proof that Mid and End Year Thankgiving is specifically biblical? Thanks again Bro!!! You are the best!

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  71. Matthew 15:9
    But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    INC Church Administration is a proponent violators of this verse!!!

    That is a fact!

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    1. Church of Christ members{you're not included} are united with...

      church admin in regards to it's teachings...

      are all church members violators of this verse?...

      please justify your answer using the bible...

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    2. Sorry but I cannot unite with someone who violates the Words and Law's of God. I just cannot side with that, I side with the pristine Words of God. Are you aware that the "Daughter of Zion" aka INC will turn against God? It is written and the Prophesy of Isaiah. Go read it.

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  72. What verse in New Testament wing222 that teach about TITHING (10%)?

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    1. Just research it, google is free, it will give verses in both ot and nt. There is no doctrine that says... give whatever you want to God as long as not grudgingly but whole heartedly and cheerfully. What God commanded ever since long ago is 10% of your blessings. But I know, lots of people hates this Law of God.

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    2. your reference is apostle google...

      hahaha...

      church admin is composed of all members who administers the whole church...

      how can you control your 10% offerings?

      if you don't offer whole heartedly and cheerfully that's the reason...

      why you question on how inc wealth is use...

      mabigat sa loob mo kasi ang yong pag aabuloy...

      kaya nanghihinayang ka...

      kaya wag ka nalang magbigay...

      better...

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    3. I say google because the 10% law is a no brainer. It does not require a messenger to understand the law of thithing.

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  73. Simone... what is kabagis? he he he..
    sounds very familiar i heard ministers address themselves "kabagis".

    I speak no Ilocano but my mom is lakay!

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  75. Simone.. I am not envious. I am well blessed, lets put it that why. I am very content of what God has given me. I am not materialistic. I can basically afford anything but material things does not give me joy. My Joy is to adhere with the unchanged Words of God. NOT Man-Made rules invented by... the Men in the so called Church Administration. What a blasphemy to add and change God's Law. Shame Shame Shame... but you are so diehard, you rather follow men than God.

    that is why I resent them.

    you know what I mean, you are just playing dumb and blind. but I love you though. Kabagis!

    let us just wait and see, judgement day is near..

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    1. your well blessed...

      good for you...

      majority of inc members are poor but...

      in offering to GOD...

      we whole heartedly and cheerfully give...

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  76. Perhaps wing222 should also consider the teaching regarding circumcision, and when Apostle James has the final judgment.

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    1. Circumcision has nothing to do with what you can offer to God. It has something to do with hygene. Nice try though. Are you one of the diehard trusting to the Church Admin instead of God.

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    2. wing222 maybe want to be the judge...

      wing222 maybe want to be heard saying "this is my judgement..your guilty"

      hahaha...

      mabalen nia...wen siguro...

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    3. ako si ka felix ang anghel ng malilibog. tutulungan kita simone sa paglaban sa kanya, bibigyan kita ng kalibugang kahit mang-rape ka ay ok lang.

      sambitin mo: opo sya nga po mano po 3 the movie.

      libog ay sumasainyo lahat na miyembro ng INManlo

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  77. Not the die hard "Church Admin has Man-made rules & trusting thyself".

    "Circumcision has nothing to do with what you can offer to God." And so is tithing. Both are covenants for Moses.

    Or should I had consulted the early Christians that it is no big deal if one is circumcised or not. Sure, it is a talk about and someone has the final say.

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    2. tithing is not just the covenant of Moses but the law from God. And Jesus did not change it, Sitll valid and practiced in Christ time as well as present time.

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    3. if you like to offer 10% go on...

      that helps...

      just don't question the admin on how they manage inc...

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    4. simone my lost brother, I offer 10% because of obedience to God. it is a command.

      I question because administrator mismanaged the INC, It has become a business, for profit. And they invented doctrines commandments of Men.

      that is the main reason.

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    5. wing222 said...

      "I question because administrator mismanaged the INC,"

      vs

      wing222 said...

      "INC is aware of global economic collaspe is imminent and the currency will be of no value.. so the smart move is the turn INC currency into tangible Assets... take it from me, I am in the market of economics and I am good at it. "

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  78. "There is no doctrine that says... give whatever you want to God as long as not grudgingly but whole heartedly and cheerfully."



    2 Corinthians 9:7

    New International Version (NIV)
    7 Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.


    Hope this helps!!!

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    1. 2 Cor 9:7 is NOT offering to God... take note.

      It is the giving to the poor. That is the instruction to give what your heart desires, not reluctantly or under compulsion because God loves a cheerful giver... to whom? to the poor... read verse 9..

      This verse do not refer to offerings to God.

      this verse doesnt supercedes the law of tithing. Tithing is still in effect.

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  80. Nakakaintindi ka ba ng TAGALOG wing222?

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  81. MATITISURIN KA KASI WING222!

    HINDI MALINIS ANG PUSO KAYA NAGKAKAGANYAN KA!

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  82. wing222 aka Judas Iscariot...

    You are like Judas...

    He was bitter when the lady poured perfume on Jesus..

    Judas said they must sell the perfume and give it to the poor...Jesus rebuked him.

    Judas is good in the market of economics like you...huh...

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    1. titi ni ka felix na ipinasok sa puki ni rosita ang katapat nyan kapatid mga hangal lahat yan kaya tinitira tayong mga Iglesia

      pag lumipad si ka felix ang mang rarape tameme yan mga yan di ba.

      nakita mo ba yung vibrator ni ka felix sa museo? ang laki pala pati yung collection nyang playboy ang dami no

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  83. nakakasawang basahin ung mga tinatype nitong si wing222, tisod kasi sa abuluyan,tapos sabi niya hind daw xa takot matiwalag, eh bakit hind na lng xa kusang umalis since ayaw niya din pala ang aral ng INC lalo na ung pamamalakad ng church admin,kung ayaw niyang sundin eh di wag niya gawin at umalis na lng kaysa ung patuloy niyang poproblemahin ang abuluyan.

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    1. oo nga umalis ka sa INC kung ayaw mo ng titi ni ka felix

      gigibee nakita nyo ba sa museo yung vibrator ni ka felix ang laki no.

      at ang dami nyang koleksyon ng playboy magasin iba-iba pa di ba

      http://www.burningcamel.com ito maganda rin

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    2. Sorry but I do not understand Tagalog or your dialect. I am American Born "True" INC. Not like you brainwashed following and obeying doctrines and commandments of men (Church Admin)"
      Judgement Day is Near and those who added and Omitted from the Laws of God are in for a big surprise.

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  84. awan gamin maaramid ni wing222, takrot lang siguro na mapahiya na maikkat suna ittoy INC, kaya madi nga suna lat tan umalis...

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    1. usto ata imbagam kabagis...

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    2. ka felix anghel ng malilibog, tulungan mo kaming mga kapatid mo na maging malibog para matalo namin ang mga lumalaban sa kalibugan mo.

      opo sya nga po mano po 3 the movie. felix na ubod ng libog ang katawan lipad hehehehehe

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  85. 2 Cor 9:7 is NOT offering to God... take note.

    It is the giving to the poor. That is the instruction to give what your heart desires, not reluctantly or under compulsion because God loves a cheerful giver... to whom? to the poor... read verse 9..

    This verse do not refer to offerings to God.

    this verse doesnt supercedes the law of tithing. Tithing is still in effect.


    In my understanding of what he is trying to say:

    I now have an excuse to have grudges, give reluctantly and I am under compulsion as long as I will be giving offers to GOD.

    And, In any situation in my life, even if I, let's say, under tight and almost nothing to feed my family and myself, I should strictly adhere to the tithing. Or, in exact opposite, if I decided to give more than 10%, that should not be the case because as by the LAW of Tithing, 10% is enough.


    Hmmm... wing222 aka. INC Man-Made Rules sure knows how to invest his 90%.

    And for the tithing Matthew 23:23 and Luke 11:42, he is speaking to the scribes and Pharisees who are tied to the Laws of Moses of the the OLD Covenant. He is not preaching to the "Christians" to render tithing rather Christ is emphasizing the Hypocrisy of the Pharisees.

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    1. You understanding shows that you are lack of basic intelligence. Sorry to say that but it just shows.

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  86. Read Luke 18:9-14, The Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector

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    1. Luke 18:8-14 has nothing to do with the thithing, it is talking about their service to God is not accepted due to the fact they are NOT of Christ. The practices however were correct but unacceptable because they are NOT in Christ. Get my point!

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  87. wing222 now is hidding ha!..

    Wing222 II Cor.9-7 is indeed a doctrine about offering monetary contributions to our Lord God.

    Pls read II Cor.9:1-6...then continue reading verses 7 -9 if u want.

    Understand d context of this chapter(chapter 9).The Apostles are teaching d true Christians on how to do their offerings to our Lord God in this chapter.

    Open ur heart and mind wing222!

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  88. Nice and very interesting subject!

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  89. KAWAWA NAMAN C MIZRACH AT TRUTHSHALLSETYOUFREE NABOBO KAY C.PIO NG WWW.CATHOLICPOINT.BLOGSPOT.COM HEHEHEHEHE TAMEMEME INC KASI KAYA GANOON PURO C FELIX NA MAKASALANAN ANG INIISIP HEHEHEHE

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  90. Wrongg... This verse is for da poor brerhren in macesonia... Read it again

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  91. How could it be wrong?

    the very 1st verse in chapter 9 reffers to the administration of the offerings of the saints(INC members).

    Read it again too!

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    1. I posted the entire 2 Cor 9... I pray you dicern it.

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    2. the 1st verse of 2 Cor 9 says... "ministration". you are confusing this with Administration and here are the definitions.

      1. (noun) administration, disposal
      a method of tending to or managing the affairs of a some group of people (especially the group's business affairs)

      Ministration-
      1. (noun) relief, succor, succour, ministration
      assistance in time of difficulty

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  92. You must be lost. Read verse 13... it is for charity...

    Question? Is God a Charity?

    Thank you and may God bless you!

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  93. 2 Corinthians 9
    Easy-to-Read Version (ERV)

    Your Giving Is a Blessing

    1 I really don’t need to write to you about this help for God’s people. 2 I know that you want to help. I have been bragging about you to the people in Macedonia. I told them that you people in Achaia have been ready to give since last year. And your desire to give has made most of the people here ready to give also. 3 But I am sending these brothers to you. I don’t want our bragging about you in this to be for nothing. I want you to be ready just as I said you would be. 4 If any of those from Macedonia come with me, and they find that you are not ready, we will be ashamed. We will be ashamed that we were so sure of you. And you will be ashamed too! 5 So I thought that I should ask these brothers to come there before we do. They will help in getting together the generous gift you promised. Then it will be ready when we come, and it will be seen as a blessing you are giving, not as something you were forced to do.
    6 Remember this: The one who plants few seeds will have a small harvest. But the one who plants a lot will have a big harvest. 7 Each one of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give. You should not give if it makes you unhappy or if you feel forced to give. God loves those who are happy to give. 8 And God can give you more blessings than you need, and you will always have plenty of everything. You will have enough to give to every good work. 9 As the Scriptures say,

    “He gives generously to the poor;
    his goodness will continue forever.”

    10 God is the one who gives seed to those who plant, and he gives bread for food. And God will give you spiritual seed and make that seed grow. He will produce a great harvest from your goodness. 11 God will make you rich in every way so that you can always give freely. And your giving through us will make people give thanks to God.

    12 The service you are offering helps God’s people with their needs, but that is not all it does. It is also bringing more and more thanks to God. 13 This service is a proof of your faith, and people will praise God because of it. They will praise God that you freely share what you have with them and with all people. They will praise him to see you following the Good News about Christ that you openly accepted. They will praise God because you freely share with them and with all people. 14 And when they pray, they will wish they could be with you. They will feel this way because of the great grace that God gave you. 15 Thanks be to God for his gift that is too wonderful to describe.

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    1. Psalm 112:9
      New International Version (NIV)

      9 They have freely scattered their gifts to the poor,
      their righteousness endures forever;
      their horn[a] will be lifted high in honor.

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