Wednesday, 9 November 2011

The Philippines is in the Bible



     THE most common attack of our Detractors [one of the most Notorious of them is Eric from Toronto, Canada who always patronizing my blog and promoting it],  especially those who believed in the TRINITY Doctrine, or those who follow a doctrine not found in the Bible is the teaching of the INC regarding the Prophecy of the Bible that pertains to Bro. Felix Y. Manalo as the LAST MESSENGER of God.

They oftenly said to us:

“You are saying that we believe a teaching that is not found in the Bible, you often ask us where in the Bible we can read the word “Trinity”? Why? Is there a word “Philippines” in the Bible? This is a proof that the members of the INC also believed in a teaching that is not found in the Bible.

Asking a question such as: 

Is the word “Philippines” in the Bible?

Is a sign of ignorance, because the Philippines got its name only on March 16, 1521 [16th Century] when it was discovered by Ferdinand Magellan, and during that time it was named FELIPINAS [PHILIPPINES in English] which means  LAS ISLAS DE FELIPE “THE ISLES OF PHILIP” which was named after the King of Spain during that time – King Philip II, and the Bible was completed since 96 AD [First Century]. How could you find that word in the Bible? So it is absurd to even ask that question, and a real sign of GRAVE IGNORANCE among our detractors.

And another thing the INC never taught ever that the word PHILIPPINES is found in the Bible. So there is no reason for them to ask us that question at all, for it is not an INC’s doctrine.

But does the location, place or the land which was NO NAME YET by the time the book of Prophet Isaiah was written, which was named later  the PHILIPPINES really not mentioned in the Bible?


Well, before we go to that issue, let us ask our Detractors, a related question:

Does the word “IRAN”, IRAQ” and “TURKEY” in the Bible?

Of course no one among them would dare to answer YES. For it is an undeniable fact that these words cannot be found in the scriptures, for these names does not exist yet during the time when the Bible was written.

So we will ask them again:

Does the country of IRAN, IRAQ, and TURKEY mentioned in the Bible?

Do you think they would dare to answer NO? if ever they would dare to answer No, then they are committing a very big mistake for these countries were indeed mentioned in the pages of the Holy Scriptures.

The word IRAN, IRAQ, and TURKEY, of course can’t be found in the Bible because that names do not exist yet? But do those countries already existed when the Bible was written?  Would you dare to answer NO? Especially you ERIC?

No one would dare to answer NO as I said already, because it is a fact that all countries in the world already existed during that time, only their names weren’t, for some of them were NOT YET  DISCOVERED nor NAMED YET during the time the Bible was written.

But those countries are mentioned in the Bible for these countries already existed during the Bible was written. Since their names were not yet IRAN, IRAQ, and TURKEY, the author of the Bible as instructed of course by the Almighty used their OLD NAMES during that time.

PERSIA is the old name of IRAN, and it is mentioned in the Bible:

2 Chronicles 36:20  “And them that had escaped from the sword carried he away to Babylon; where they were servants to him and his sons until the reign of the kingdom of PERSIA:” [King James Version]

IRAQ is mentioned in the Bible as MESOPOTAMIA:

Acts 7:2  “And he said, Men, brethren, and fathers, hearken; The God of glory appeared unto our father Abraham, when he was in MESOPOTAMIA, before he dwelt in Charran,” [KJV]

TURKEY as ASIA MINOR  or plainly ASIA:

Acts 16:6  “and having gone through Phrygia and the region of Galatia, having been forbidden by the Holy Spirit to speak the word in ASIA,” [Young’s Literal Translation]

Of course the word ASIA there would never mean the MODERN ASIA that we knew today as one of the seven continents, since that passage pertains to the propagation of the Gospel by Apostle Paul to the Gentile Nations.

The GREEK DICTIONARY has this to say about that word:

“G773
Ἀσία
Asia = “orient”
1) Asia proper or proconsular Asia embracing Mysia, Lydia, Phrygia, and Caria, corresponding closely to TURKEY today” [Thayer’s Greek Definition]

These countries were mentioned by the Bible using their OLD NAMES, that’s why those were used for those NAMES already existed during that time as an identification of the said countries.

So is it wrong to say that IRAN, IRAQ, and TURKEY is in the Bible?

Would you mind answering this question our beloved detractors?


Now let’s go back to the PHILIPPINE ISSUE:

Does the PHILIPPINES have a name already existed during the time when the Bible was written?

Of course the answer would be a definitely NO! For what I have mentioned already that the Philippines only got its name in 1521 [16th Century].

Does the PHILIPPINES have an OLD NAME during the time when the Bible was written?

Of course the answer again would be a big NO!,  for there is no record in History that the Philippines used an OLD NAME, like CHINA which was called CATHAY before.

Does the land, place, or country which was named later the Philippines already existed during the time when the Bible was written?

Would anyone among our Detractors, especially you ERIC, would dare to answer this question NO?

Of course no one with the normal state of mind would ever dare to answer that question NO. For it is an undeniable fact that all the lands in the whole world existed since the time of creation, so it is even proper and logical to say that the land or place which was later named the Philippines, already existed even before the time of Moses or even long before than the time when the Bible was written.

Does the land, place, or country which was later named Philippines mentioned in the Bible?

This is the PROPER QUESTION that they should ask the INC. 

If we ask them this question, I know that they would dare to answer NO, but the question is:

Can they prove that the country which was later called the Philippines is not mentioned in the Bible?

So let us go now where in the Bible the country of the Philippines which was no name at that time was mentioned:


Isaiah 46:11  “Calling a RAVENOUS BIRD from the EAST, the man that executeth my counsel from a FAR COUNTRY: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.” [KJV]

The Bible specifically said that the RAVENOUS BIRD, which is a MAN that will EXECUTE GOD’s COUNSEL will come from a FAR COUNTRY FROM THE EAST.

What is the Characteristic of this FAR COUNTRY from the EAST?

Isaiah 24:15  “Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the EAST, even the name of the LORD, the God of Israel, in the ISLES OF THE SEA.” [Revised Version]

See? Very clear were the descriptions of the Bible regarding the FAR COUNTRY from the EAST from where the RAVENOUS BIRD will come from. This passage said : “ISLES OF THE SEA” it is clear then that the FAR COUNTRY being mentioned is composed of ISLANDS.

There we have it our dear readers, these following Biblical Descriptions.

It is a FAR COUNTRY from ISRAEL from where the Prophecy was written, from the EAST, and it is composed of ISLANDS.

But the EAST is composed of three divisions.  NEAR EAST, MIDDLE EAST, FAR EAST,  which EAST is being mentioned by the PROPHECY?

Let us go have a look at Isaiah 46:11 in the Hebrew Bible, the original language of the OLD TESTAMENT:


The word EAST mentioned in the passage in English is mentioned in Hebrew as “MIZRACH”

And MIZRACH means:

“EAST. The Hebrew term, KEDEM, properly means that which is before or in front of a person, and was applied to the east, from the custom of turning in that direction, when describing the points of the compass, before, behind, the right and the left representing respectively east, west, south and north. Job 23:8-9.

The term as generally used refers to the lands lying immediately eastward of Palestine, namely, Arabia, Mesopotamia and Babylonia; on the other hand, MIZRACH, is used of the FAR EAST with a less definite signification. Isa 42:2; Isa 42:25; Isa 43:5; Isa 46:11.” [Smith’s Bible Dictionary]

This dictionary said, MIZRACH is used of the FAR EAST and he also mentioned Isaiah 46:11 as you can see above. So the RAVENOUS BIRD, the MAN that God will send to execute his counsel will come from a FAR COUNTRY from the FAR EAST, composed of ISLANDS.

Is the PHILIPPINES located in the FAR EAST?

"It cannot be without significance that the country which stands almost at the geographical center of the FAR EAST, THE PHILIPPINES, should also be that in which Christianity has taken the deepest root." (Asia and the Philippines,  written by a Jesuit Priest Horacio dela Costa, page.169)

And a prominent Historical Book affirms also:

"The PHILIPPINES were Spain's share of the first colonizing movement in the FAR EAST; The name means the ISLANDS OF PHILIP and refers to that grim ruler, King Philip II." [WORLD HISTORY by E. R. Boak, Preston Slosson, Howard Anderson, Page 445]


Can anyone among our detractors dare to prove that this is not the PHILIPPINES? If it is not the PHILIPPINES, can you kindly tell us which country it is that bears the said Characteristics as mentioned in the Bible?

Do you think Isaiah would not mention the name PHILIPPINES if that name already existed during the time he wrote the prophecy?  An undeniable truth that our country during that time have NO NAME YET, that’s why it was only described by the scriptures.

Remember Isaiah 46:11, is a prophecy about the coming of God’s Last Messenger and not about the emergence of a country.

The subject matter there is the RAVENOUS BIRD, it just so happen that the country where he would come from has no name yet. That’s why the prophecy did not mention any name of a country, and just described how we can be able to know and identify the country that is being spoken of.

So it is very illogical and absurd to insist that the name of the PHILIPPINES should be found in the Bible, because those people who are insisting that, is displaying their GRAVE IGNORANCE in BIBLICAL and HISTORICAL FACTS.

Some would say this upon realizing the teaching of the INC regarding the Philippines:

“It was so hard to believe that God would chose his LAST MESSENGER from a POOR and belonging to the 3rd world country like the PHILIPPINES, why not He chose from AMERICA, CANADA, AUSTRALIA, UNITED KINGDOM, etc? Why not from a strong COUNTRY which have highly educated persons, and from a STRONG RACE?”

Those people who oftentimes said this statement, are those who have a lack of knowledge about the scriptures, and often rely only on what they believed which is only the product of their own understanding and opinions. For they do not know the criteria of God in choosing his people and his messengers.

The Bible has this to say:

1 Corinthians 1:26  “for see your calling, brethren, that NOT MANY ARE WISE ACCORDING TO THE FLESH, NOT MANY MIGHTY, NOT MANY NOBLE;”

1 Corinthians 1:27  “BUT THE FOOLISH THINGS OF THE WORLD DID GOD CHOOSE, THAT THE WISE HE MAY PUT TO SHAME; AND THE WEAK THINGS OF THE WORLD DID GOD CHOOSE THAT HE MAY PUT TO SHAME THE STRONG;”

1 Corinthians 1:28  “AND THE BASE THINGS OF THE WORLD, AND THE THINGS DESPISED DID GOD CHOOSE, AND THE THINGS THAT ARE NOT, THAT THE THINGS THAT ARE HE MAY MAKE USELESS”. [Young’s Literal Translation]

The Bible has given us enough explanation on this issue. God chooses the weak to put shame the strong. He chooses the Foolish so that the Wise may put to shame, and so on.

Bro. FELIX Y. MANALO came from a WEAK COUNTRY and RACE. He has no HIGH STANDING in society, he has no HIGH EDUCATION, but God had chosen him to become his LAST MESSENGER, to SHAME the STRONG and the WISE.

Which he had done many many  times, during his battle against OTHER RELIGION’S FALSE DOCTRINES which often came from the STRONG COUNTRIES and RACE, which he succeeded, and contributed to the unstoppable growth of the Iglesia Ni Cristo until today. A fulfillment of God’s promise to his Messenger in these last days and to the CHURCH OF CHRIST [Iglesia Ni Cristo] which emerged in the time of the ends of the earth:

Isaiah 41:10  “Fear thou not; for I am with thee: be not dismayed; for I am thy God: I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee; yea, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness.”

Isaiah 41:11  “Behold, all they that were incensed against thee shall be ashamed and confounded: they shall be as nothing; and they that strive with thee shall perish.”

Isaiah 41:12  “Thou shalt seek them, and shalt not find them, even them that contended with thee: they that war against thee shall be as nothing, and as a thing of nought.” [KJV]


So fellow brethren if anyone [or specifically Eric] ask you this question:

Is the word “Philippines” in the Bible?

You can simply say:

“The word PHILIPPINES is not in the Bible, but the country of the Philippines which was no name yet during that time the Bible was written was clearly mentioned as the FAR COUNTRY from the FAR EAST [MIZRACH], composed of ISLANDS as the place where the Ravenous Bird or the Messenger of God in these last days would come from or appear  as stated in Isaiah 46:11 and Isaiah 24:15.”

If he ask you again, just ignore him, for he is just displaying his GREAT IGNORANCE and CLOSE MINDEDNESS

So as we go back to the TRINITARIANS we can ask them this:

Can you show us a PROPERLY TRANSLATED VERSE in the Bible that describes your Trinity which is the FATHER, the SON, and the HOLY SPIRIT, as the THREE PERSONS in ONE GOD?

The PHILIPPINES has a passage in the Bible that described it, but do that belief that I mentioned regarding the TRINITY have a passage in the Bible that described it?

Can you show us a verse or verses other than the popular 1 John 5:7 of the King James Version which was proven even by the Trinitarian Bible Scholars to be a FORGED or a MISTRANSLATED VERSE?

We have proven that the COUNTRY of the PHILIPPINES is indeed was mentioned in the Bible. It is the FAR COUNTRY located in the FAR EAST composed of ISLANDS…

So it is QUITE RIGHT to say that the PHILIPPINES is in the BIBLE.

Now it’s time for you our beloved DETRACTORS to show yours. Prove to us that your TRINITY IS IN THE BIBLE….

88 comments:

  1. Eric,

    I have deleted your message, cause if I don’t I would be a LIAR like you.

    But I will quote what you said:

    AERIAL the IDIOT


    Did you NOT learn ANYTHING fron the debate between Venatalacion and keating??

    KEATING made a FOOL of him on this point

    And now you using that ERROR By VENTALACION again??

    The PHILLIPines sits ALMOST at the GEOGRAPHICAL CENTER of the FAR EAST?



    So its from Keating you learned a lot ha Eric? So Keating is your Idol ha, when it comes to ridiculing INC’s doctrines, no wonder you loved so much some of the doctrines of the Catholic Church, like the Trinity – Father, Son, and Holy Spirit in One God, the New Sabbath is Sunday, and Jesus suffering a second death in Hell. These were all Catholic Original Doctrines which you uphold.

    Don’t you think that Keating is the one made fool by Bro. Joe here, because it is not the INC who said that the Philippines is almost at the geographical center of the FAR EAST, it is the Priest named HORACIO DELA COSTA:

    Keating said: ”You said, You quoted somebody, this was your authority, that the Geographical Center of the Far East was the Philippines.”

    See, how your beloved Keating twisted their own book written by their own Priest?

    The Priest said: “the country which stands almost at the geographical center of the FAR EAST, THE PHILIPPINES”

    Keating said: “the Geographical Center of the Far East was the Philippines”

    See? This is where you learn most of your twisting abilities ha? Read it Eric, when you say that the Philippines is almost at the geographical center, does that mean that it is at the geographical center?

    When you play basketball, then the ball was thrown upward, then you jump and you almost reach the ball does that mean that you reached the ball, or even touched it?

    The problem with Keating is he misinterpreted what the Priest had said, and this made a FOOL out of him.

    Because when you say almost at the geographical center, it is just near it, and not in it, got it?

    I still prefer that English is not my native tongue, because I think I understand it more better than you are, and your beloved Keating.

    Then Keating said: “the Priest is incorrect”

    And that worsens the situation, now he is proving the Priest and his colleague WRONG. A Catholic Defender telling the Audience that his Catholic Priest is WRONG, instead of defending his Priest. Hahahahahaha!!! Who is the FOOL and IDIOT now? Ha Eric?

    What he could have done is to prove that the Philippines is NOT in the FAR EAST. But of course he cannot do that for that is an UNDENIABLE FACT, that’s why his last resort is to ridicule his own Priest and that made him a FOOL and STUPID, for that is a STUPENDOUS ACT when you’re in a DEBATE.

    The INC quoted that Book just to prove that the Philippines is in the FAR EAST, and it serves its purpose. For even Keating nor you can prove that the Philippines is NOT in the FAR EAST.

    When you believe in a FOOL like Keating, what that makes you?

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  2. hehehe! got you again eric, hahahaha! what else again eric...

    i have for you eric --> nail cutter.

    for pedicure and manicure... may libreng cuticle
    pampalambot ng matigas na kuko.

    khafji.

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  3. arial saan naman kanto nyo inimbento yung mga pinagsasabi nyo dito?

    http://www.examineiglesianicristo.com

    ang site na ito hindi imbento kundi ebidensya ng panglilinlang nyo hehe at kaimmoralan ni f.manalo

    angel sya! tama sabi sa biblia sa huling araw darating ang bulaang propeta at magpapanggap bilang angel at manglilinlang ng marami dba?

    tama ang claim nyo na sya ay angel, ANGEL NA MAPANGLILANG

    huwag mo na post para naman marami pa ang malinlang nyo hehehe
    jane

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  4. @ lol lol lol,

    hey 500 ft man (lol,lol,lol)
    tangkad ka kasi eh....

    may kulang pa po pala,
    samahan na rin natin ng caronia nail polish
    ayan.. kumpleto na yan ha...
    my glitters pa yan...

    wag na magalit kasi libre naman yan eh.

    khafji

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  5. Jane,

    Lahat ng sinasabi sa Blog ko ay may batayan. Bakit hindi ka na lang magpakita ng ebidensiya na ang mga sinabi at ipinakita kong iyan ay HINDI TOTOO, hindi iiyong kung saang walang kuwentang website mo pa kami itinuturo?

    Bakit hindi mo ba kaya? Oh tama ang sinasabi ni Christian na WALA KA NAMANG ALAM at NANGGUGULO ka lang?

    Sabihin mo sa amin kung ano RELIGION mo sa susunod mong post. Dahil kapag hindi mo sinabi, lahat ng POSTS mo dito ay buburahin ko!

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  6. And as for you Eric,

    Oh comeon you're just trying to convince yourself that you are not very afraid to get EXCOMMUNICATED or get SUED.

    Because if you're not, you could just simply send me the complete details about you so we can identify and locate you easily and get through with EXCOMMUNICATING you.

    The TRUTH, it's not the FEAR of EXCOMMUNICATING that bothers you most, it's really the fear of your WIFE, because you will not like her when she's angry, because if for example she divorced you, who would accept a DEMENTED and with ACUTE ALZHIEMER PERSON like you? Hahahahahahahahaha!!!

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  7. Jane,

    Huwag mong pairalin ang kawalang modo at kawalang pinag-aralan mo. Pagbibigyan lang kitang magpost sa Blog ko kung sasabihin mo sa akin kung ano ang RELIHIYON mo. Binigyan kita ng pagkakataon pero pambabastos ang ginagawa mo.

    Sa totoo lang alam ko na kapag tinanong kita diyan sa mga pinagsasabi mo ay wala ka namang maisasagot dahil wala ka naman talagang alam.

    Sa totoo lang hindi ko man alam ang edad mo pero I'm sure hindi ka pa ipinapanganak ay ISSUE na iyang mga pinagsasabi ng WEBSITE na iyan. At matagala nang sinagot iyan ng INC...Kaya nga ang mga gumagawa ng ganiyang mga pninira ay hindi makalantad. Sige nga sabihin mo nga sa amin kung sino ang may-ari ng EXAMINEIGLESIANICRISTO.COM na iyan? Sabihin mo sa amin, sino?

    Konting RESPETO, huwag mong lapastanganin ang BLOG ko, kung wala ka rin lang ipopost na matino at hindi mo naman kayang TINDIGAN iyang mga pinagsasabi mo. Dahil Jane sa totoo lang NONSENSE ang mga sinasabi mo, at kapag pinagtatanong kita, tiyak namang hindi ka sasagot, kaya puwede ba. Tumigil ka na lang sa ginagawa mo, dahil walang mapapakinabang sa iyo ang mga MAMBABASA ng BLOG ko.

    Kung talagang naniniwala ka na ang mga INC ay mapupunta sa Impiyerno dahil nasa mali kami. LUMANTAD KA. Isapubliko mo iyan, i-publish mo sa mga PAHAYAGAN, RADIYO, at TELEBISYON. Para makita ng lahat ng TAO. Gaya ng ginagawa ng INC na inlalantad sa publiko kamalian ng mga MALI AT MGA PEKENG RELIHIYON.

    Oh kaya ipahiya mo ang aming MINISTRO sa harap ng MADLA sa pamamagitan ng pakikipagdebate.

    Hindi matatawag na pagmamalasakit ang ginagawa mo, dahil sa nagtatago ka sa pagbabalatkayo.

    Kaya please lang JANE, kung wala kang magawa sa buhay, huwag mong perwisyuin ang BLOG ko, dahil wala naman kaming mapapala sa iyo.

    Pumunta ka sa ministro namin at dun ka magtanong ng mga isyung matagal na nilang sinagot. Wala akong panahong mag-aksaya ng panahon sa mga taong makitid ang pag-iisip na gaya mo.

    YOU'RE JUST A WASTE OF MY PRECIOUS TIME, THERE IS NOTHING SENSIBLE I COULD GET OUT OF YOU...

    So just get lost, and leave my BLOG alone, dahil hindi malaking kawalan ang hindi mo pagbisita dito...

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  8. @ eric A.K.A. lol lol lol,

    hello po dahan... dahan po... ang puso... ang puso!!!
    hindi ka pa po ba masaya sa gift.... advance po yan sa merry holiday para sa iyo...

    may pahabol pa po ako sa inyo.anu palang kulay ang gusto ninyo sa nail polish...?

    meron akong latest po dito matingkad na kulay berde, pink at pula, export quality po yan bgay na bagay sa iyo kasi po 5 ft lang ako ikaw ay 500 ft. (ang tangkad ninyo. like a handsome hunk(?) hehehehe).

    eric wag ka ng mag alboroto jan, pag mainit ang ulo lagyan mo lang ng nail polish yang kuko mo makikita mo giginhawa ang feelings mo... at masasatisfied ka sa mga paliwanag dito.

    katulad ng mga ibang mga kababayaan mo(o natin) na masaya na...dahil naliwanagan na po sila.

    basta ipagpatuloy mo lang yang mag nail polish jan pag kulang pa just giv me a buzz send ko agad sa iyo.

    I'll wait,
    khafji

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  9. To my Brotther from Kafji,

    Sorry nakalimutan ko nga palang sabihin sa iyo na hindi nakakaintindi ng TAGALOG iyang si ERIC the ULYANING AMERIKANO na UBOD NG SINUNGALING.

    Kaya kung may sasabihin ka, paki-ENGLISH mo lang, kasi hindi naman natin katulad iyan na LINGUISTIC, sobra kung matahin ang LAHI natin eh iisang LANGUAGE lang naman ang alam, eh hindi naman makaintindi kahit paliwanagan mo ng English, kasi nga makitid ang ISIP.

    God Bless sa iyo and thanks for supporting my BLOG.

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  10. Oh ERIC aka MR. ALZHEIMERS,

    Sorry I forgot to tell you that I'm not reading your NONSENSE, I just DELETE them right away. Hehehehehehe.

    Tell your CAREGIVER not to FORGET to replace your DIAPHER becuase you STINK already, Hahahahahah!!!

    You said my BLOG is a TRASH, but you keep on coming back. It means you are a FILTY FLY who loves my TRASH!!!. Hahahahaha!

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  11. ...kaawa awang sanlibutan, maraming salamat kapatid at sinasagot mo mga tanong ng mga d nakakaintindi, wag ka pong mag alala ksama nten ang dyos ama. pag pasensyahan mo na mga yan. sinusuportahan kta kapatid. maraming salamat.

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  12. Salamat Bro. JOHNRIE,

    Ganiyan talaga ang mga naiipit, kumbaga sa mga asong nasagasaan ang paa, tahol ng tahol kasi nga naipit.

    Kita mo imbes na sagutin nila ang mga itinatanong natin at tutulan iyong mga isyu na ating ipinapakita, ay kung anu-anong kabulastugan ang mga pinagsasabi.

    Kapag natanong mo naman ay hindi naman mga makasagot. Hahahahaha.

    Kasi nga wala sila sa tunay, kaya ang numero unong iniiwasan nila ay iyong matanong sila.

    Salamat sa iyong pagsuporta, kapatid, Pagpalain ka ng Dios at Ama ng Panginoong Jesus.

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  13. The FILTHY FLY can't help not to visit my BLOG, and by the way thanks for PROMOTING my Blog on NETWORK 54,

    It's 40,000 PAGEVIEWS, and still rising, and you're one of those who makes my BLOG popular.

    Thanks for SUPPORTING MY BLOG ERIC...

    Don't worry I will later give you the AERIAL'S TORCH OF SALVATION BLOG LOYALTY AWARD, because you deserved it. MR. ALZHEIMER ERIC...

    Oh by the way does your DIAPER haven't been changed yet? I can smell you still STINK. hehehehehehe.

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  14. Kita niyo mga viewers,

    Patutunayan ko sa inyo na si JANE ay isang SINUNGALING:

    Sabi niya:

    ”dati akong INC iglesia ni manalo at sinasabi sa amin na wlang katotohanan ito http://www.examineiglesianicristo.com pero puro bula ng bibig ng ministro ang naririnig namin dhil walang maipakitang proof hehehe”,

    Kita ninyo ah napakaliwanag niyang sinabi na DATI SIYANG INC.

    Kung TOTOO na INC siya dati, de hindi siya mahihirapang sagutin ang mga TANONG na ito?

    1. Ano pangalan ng iyong KINATALAANG LOKAL at DISTRITO?

    2. Sa anong KAPISANAN ka ng INC napabilang?

    3. Ilang leksiyon ang itinuro sa iyo nang ikaw ay dinoktrinahan?

    4. Ilang buwan ang hinintay mo bago ka nabautismuhan?

    5. Kailan ang Petsa ng iyong Bautismo?

    6. Ano ang aral ng INC na nakahikayat sa iyo kung kaya ka nagpasiya na umanib dito?


    Hindi ba mga KAPATID ang mga katanungang iyan ay hindi mahihirapang sagutin ng isang INC o kahit pa nang isang NATIWALAG sa INC, dahil hindi iyan madaling makalimutan, at ‘yan ang madalas na itinatanong sa atin ng ibang mga kapatid para matiyak kung TUNAY nga TAYONG KAPATID.

    Tingnan ninyo, at hindi iyan MASASAGOT ni JANE. Dahil KASINUNGALINGAN lang naman ang sinasabi niya na siya ay dating INC.

    Hindi ba JANE?

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    Replies
    1. baka kapatid iglesia ng diyos kay cristo hesus sa samahan ni ingkong hehe

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    2. whahahaha. hindi makasagot ang sinungaling.. pahiya ka nohh jane..

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    3. eh bakit ba kayo may pasko?? alam mo ba na ang pasko niyo eh pagan celebration originally? na sinapawan lang ng isang papa para mawala yung pagan celebration at mapaltan ng "Christian" celebration.

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    4. sorry. maling box pala yung nalagyan ko ng reply kapatid. XD

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  15. Alam mo JANE mahalaga na malaman namin kung ano ang TUNAY mong RELIHIYON, kasi sinasabi mo na kami ay nasa MALI, pero hindi mo masabi-sabi kung ano ang RELIHIYON na itinuturing mong TAMA.

    Kaya please lang KUNG MALI ANG INC, pakisabi mo nga sa amin ANO ANG PANGALAN NG TUNAY NA RELIHIYON?

    Please huwag ka nang magpanggap na dati kang INC, dahil bistado naman na hindi ito totoo, inaakusahan mo ang aming KA FELIX na SINUNGALING pero hindi mo ba naiisip na NAGSISINUNGALING ka rin, hindi ba lalabas noon na ikaw ay sa DIABLO rin, dahil NAGSISINUNGALING ka.

    Pinakikiusapan kita ng maayos, magpakatao ka JANE...Sagutin mo ang itinatanong namin sa iyo.

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  16. Alam mo ang nangyayari diyan kay JANE ay parang umiihip sa MANGKOK na puno ng HARINA, kasi lahat ng sinasabi niya TUMATAMA rin sa mukha niya.

    Inaakusahan ang INC na sinungaling, eh siya naman pala itong nagpapanggap na dating INC eh hindi naman pala totoo.

    Paano mo paniniwalaan isang TAONG, sa simila pa lang ay NAGSISINUNGALING na.

    I'm sorry JANE, hindi kami maniniwala sa iyo.

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  17. Jane,

    Eh, di ibigay mo kung sino ang dapat naming paniwalaan. Huwag mong ipagdamot na malaman namin at suriin namin ang kinabibilangan mong Relihiyon sa ngayon. Dahil ang kailangan namin ay ang totoo. Ngayon kung mapapasinungalingan mo lahat ng Doktrina ng Iglesia Ni Cristo. Then saka kami magpapasya. Hindi yung puro akusasyon at mga Tsismis lang ang ibinabato mo. Hindi tatalab sa amin yan. Puro paninira lang ang mga ibinabato mo sa Iglesia Ni Cristo, eh matagal ng nasagot ang mga iyan.

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  18. THANX BRO. AERIAL, lagi ko pong binababasa ung mga sagot mo... NAPAKALIWANAG PO,,, more power and GOD BLESS PO... sa bawat pagsagot po ng mga katanungan, natutupad po ang nasusulat sa ISAIAS 41:11-12.... HIGIT SA LAHAT, lalong nagliliwanag ang IGLESIA NI CRISTO...
    ~roi

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  19. Sir Aerial,,
    ...palagay ko po... PALAGAY LANG... yung religion ni Jane ay ung ipinapangaral ni ELISORBAK..... hehehehehehehehehh.... may espiritu kc ni EliSorBak yung kanyang tema, iisa lang kc ung espiritu nila pag nanunuligsa sa INC eh......

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  20. Hello po...

    Bro. Aerial,

    God Bless po kapatid. Sa ganitong paraan maipagtanggol nyo po ang INC.

    God Bless to all INC.

    ~november

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  21. mga kapatid inggit lang po Si miss Jane sa INC,nababagay sa kanya ito.
    "For jealousy and selfishness are not God's kind of wisdom. Such things are earthly,unspiritual,and motivated by the Devil"
    = James 3:15,NLT=

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  22. Binalaan ko si JANE, na kung hindi niya sasabihin sa akin kung ano ang RELIHIYON niya ay BUBURAHIN ko ang kaniyang POST.

    Sabi niya sa isa sa kaniyang message na aking BINURA.

    "AKALA KO BA WALANG NABABALITANG INC MEMBER NA GUMAGAWA NG KASAMAAN? MAPANGLINLANG"

    Ito ang matibay na EBIDENSIYA na hindi dating KAPATID si JANE. Dahil hindi kailan man DOKTRINA sa INC, na WALANG KAPATID na makakagawa ng paglabag. At PERPEKTO ang mga KAANIB sa INC.

    Isang matibay na EBIDENSIYA na may gumagawa ng PAGLABAG sa INC ay ang PAGTITIWALAG nito ng mga lumalabag na mga KAANIB, bilang pagsunod sa utos ng Dios na nakasulat sa Biblia:

    1 Corinto 5:12-13 ”Kung sabagay, wala akong karapatang humatol sa mga hindi Cristiano; ang Diyos ang hahatol sa kanila. Hindi ba't ang mga nasa loob ng iglesya ang dapat ninyong hatulan? Sabi nga sa kasulatan, "ITIWALAG NINYO SA INYONG SAMAHAN ANG MASAMANG TAO." [Bagong Magandang Balita, Biblia]

    Kaya maliwanag na hindi talagang dating INC, itong si JANE, dahil wala itong kaalam-alam sa ating DOKTRINA.

    Ito ang kahayagan ng kaniyang PAGSISINUNGALING. At dahil sa SINUNGALING siya...eh alam na natin kung sino ang AMA niya [JUAN 8:44]

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  23. Sa tingin ko ang talagang hanap lang niyang si JANE, eh manggulo sa mga KAPATID sa INC Blogs eh, kasi kung titingnan mo ang mga sinasabi niya eh, wala namang SENSE.

    Nagpopromote lang siya ng mga BLOGS niya siguro kasi WALANG dumadalaw sa Blog niya eh. Kaya ganun.

    Kaya ang maipapayo ko lang huwag na lang ninyo patulan kasi. Mukhang hindi naman EDUKADONG tao iyang si JANE eh. Kaya kawalan ng modo ang ipinapakita niya sa atin. Akala naman niya eh mahihikayat niya tayo sa ganung paraan. Nagpapanggap pang dating INC. Eh halata mo namang walang alam sa aral natin.

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  24. Malamang po kung tatanggapin man na sya ay "dating " kaanib sa INC. tama kung gayun ang sinasabi ng biblia sa mga katulad nya, na..ang nasa katwiran kapag natiwalag at inalisan ng ilaw ay lalo pang nagiging mas masama ang kalagyan kesa ng dati. kaya d nakapag tataka na d na nya alam ang katwiran sapagkat wala na sa kanya ang ilaw. mas masama na sya ngayun kesa ng dati. kayat kitang kita naman sa kanyang pananalita na malayong malayo sa katwiran. At hinding hindi nya sasabihin kung ano ang kanyang kina-aaniban pangkatin ng pananampalataya sa kadahilanan na hindi rin nya kayang tindigan ang mga aral niyon. kasi pag nag kataon sinabi nya, alam nya na uulanin sya ng katakot takot na katanungan na d nya alam kung saan sya huhugut ng matinong sagut.

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  25. Isa sa katibayan na wala sa TUNAY NA RELIHIYON si JANE ay ang pag-iwas niya na sagutin ang ating MGA TANONG:

    Narito ang katangian ng mga taong nasa TUNAY NA RELIHIYON at PANANAMPALATAYA:

    1 Pedro 3:15 “Kundi inyong ariing banal si Cristo na Panginoon sa inyong mga puso: na LAGI KAYONG HANDA NG PAGSAGOT SA BAWA'T TAO NA HUMIHINGI SA INYO NG KATUWIRAN TUNGKOL SA PAGASANG NASA INYO, nguni't sa kaamuan at takot:”

    Ang nasa TUNAY na PANANAMPALATAYA ay LAGING HANDA na SUMAGOT sa mga TAONG humihingi ng KATUWIRAN.

    Ang kaniyang PAG-IWAS sa PAGSAGOT sa ating mga ITINATANONG ay isang MATIBAY NA EBIDENSIYA na WALA SIYA SA KATOTOHANAN....

    Sapat na sapat na iyon.

    God bless po sa lahat ng mga KAPATID...

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  26. Bakit po ang pamumuno sa loob ng Iglesia ay nag simula sa "Lolo" sunod ay ang "anak ng Lolo" sunod ay ang kasulukuyan na tagapamahala .. bakit pu legecy ang pamumuno sana po ay sagutin nyu ang tanong na ito.. :)

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    1. Nasubukan mo na rin bang itanong sa sarili mo na kung dati kay Abraham ipinagkatiwala ng Diyos ang Kaniyang bayan, na sinundan ng anak niyang si Isaac, at sinundan ng apo niyang si Jacob? May problema ba sa ganitong uri ng Pamamahala, "AnonymousNov 13, 2011 01:08 AM" ?? :)

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  27. Sa Anonymous na nagtatanong?

    Bakit sa palagay mo ba ang naglagay sa KA ERDY at KA EDUARDO sa puwesto ay ang kanilang mga SARILI?

    Ang KA FELIX ba ang pumili at naglagay sa KA ERDY?

    Ang KA ERDY ba ang pumili at naglagay sa KA EDUARDO?

    Pinakamaganda iyan muna ang sagutin mo...Anonymous,

    Dahil alam ko kaya ganiyan ang sinasabi mo ay dahil sa MALI KA NG PAGKAKAALAM, gaya ng napakaraming kumakalaban sa INC.

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  28. Bakit walang pasko ang inc?

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  29. Walang pasko ang INC dahil wala pong pasko ang ipinagdiwang ang mga APOSTOL mga dearest.

    Ganun lang po ka simpy.

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  30. Doon sa Anonymous na nagtatanong kung bakit wala kaming PASKO?

    Narito ang LINK:

    KUNG BAKIT WALA KAMING PASKO

    Sinabi na ni Bro. Jo King ang SIMPLENG DAHILAN, Nariyan naman po ang KUMPLETONG DAHILAN.

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  31. Sabi ni JANE, alyas RAUL, alyas BEN, alyas APOLEGIST, alyas CARLO:

    Binura ko ang COMMENT mo kasi kung hindi ko gagawin lalabas SINUNGALING ako na KAMUKHA mo.

    Pero ipapakita ko dito, para aking masagot:

    "aerial and joking

    http://pinoycourier.blogspot.com/2011/04/iglesia-ni-cristo-pro-rh-bill.html

    sagutin nyo to? huwag kayo masyadong magmalinis
    akala nyo kung makapaglibak kayo ng ibang relihiyon ang linis-linis nyo, simple lang yan

    mapanglinlang kayo."


    Alam mo JANE matagal nang sinagot ng INC ang mga isyung sinasabi ng BLOG na iyan.

    Anu ka ba? hindi ba't ipinangalandakan na iyan ni ELISEO SORIANO noon sa PUBLIKO, pero ano nangyari? Wala naman siyang napatunayan, Hindi ba't nalantad ang kaniyang pagsisinungaling?

    Nasaan siya ngayon? Hindi ba hindi makauwi dahil sa dami ng KASO?

    Heto nga at NAGMAMAKAAWA sa PAMAHALAAN ng PILIPINAS para makauwi na siya:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfcYOehtQds

    Hindi kailan man nangyari sa KA FELIX MANALO ang MAGTAGO sa BATAS...dahil ang NAGTATAGO lang ay iyong KRIMINAL.

    Dahil hindi napatunayan ng sinoman ang mga AKUSASYON laban sa kaniya.

    Si ROSITA TRILLANES nga eh namatay na isang INC, at naging DIAKONESA pa.

    Hindi mo ba nabasa ang RETRACTION ni ROSITA, na umamin siyang gawa-gawa lang niya ang akusasyon, bilang pagsunod sa kaniyang kamag-anak na natiwalag sa INC, para makaganti sa KA FELIX.

    Narito ang LINK:

    IS BRO. FELIX MANALO A RAPIST?

    Nariyan ang matitibay na EBIDENSIYA na nagpapatunay na INOSENTE ang KA FELIX, dahil sa KATOTOHANAN si KA FELIX pa nga ang NAGDEMANDA ng PANINIRANG PURI kela ROSITA...

    Hindi lahat ng lumalabas sa DIYARYO ay TOTOO, sa isang nagsusuri at may pag-iisip, maski sa hukuman ay hindi puwedeng gamiting ebidensiya ang DIYARYO...

    Hindi ikinakaila ng INC na may mga kaanib kaming lumalabag sa TUNTUNIN.

    Kaya nga may mga NATITIWALAG sa AMIN, maski na MINISTRO, basta nakagawa ng MABIGAT na kasalanan...TIWALAG kagad.

    Kasi kung sasabihin mo na kaya kami hindi TOTOO dahil sa may mga kaanib sa INC na LUMALABAG...

    Lalabas kung ganun na hindi rin TUNAY si CRISTO, dahil hindi niya NAPIGIL si JUDAS isa sa kaniyang APOSTOL na gumawa ng MASAMA.

    Ganiyan ang kalalabasan niyan...

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  32. Maaari ba kitang tanungin JANE alyas CARLO?

    Bakit ba imbes na PORMAL na MAGREKLAMO si ROSITA TRILLANES sa HUKUMAN ay sa DIYARYO niya kagad IPINALATHALA ang kaniyang kumuno ay sulat na ginahasa siya ng ka FELIX sa kaniyang kapatid?

    Hindi ba dapat ay sa HUKUMAN siya unang PUMUNTA?

    Ikaw ba pag nagahasa ka, ay ipapalathala mo kagad sa diyaryo ang nangyari sa iyo bago ka pumunta sa HUKUMAN at maghain ng PORMAL na REKLAMO at MAGDEMANDA?

    Maaari mo bang sagutin iyan sa amin CARLONG JANE?

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  33. Christian, joking at aerial

    saan naman ang proof nyo ng detraction ni rosita?
    bula ng bunganga ng mga patotong ministro?

    ikalawa, sabi ni christian sa dyaryo muna? bakit umabot sa Court of appeal? hehehe

    at alam nyo ba ang bula ng mga bibig ng ministro nyo sa mga local? wala ni isang napapabalitang miyembro ang gumagawa ng masama. TALAGA? kaya ito mga kawawang biktima, paniwalang paniwala

    Minisitro pumatay? talaga palang wala hehehe

    hindi kaya nahypnotize kayo? or talagang kayo ang katuparan ng biblia na sa huling araw ang masama ay lalong magpapakasama.

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  34. isa pang pahabol,

    ayaw nyong maipakita na kahit ang relihiyon nyo ay may mga kriminal pero sa lahat ng site nyo ganun na lang ang pagpapaskil nyo ng mga balita laban sa kanila?

    mapanglinlang diba?

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  35. ANONYMOUS SINAGOT KO NA ANG BLOG MO NA YAN. ANG KASO KAILANGAN PA NG IYONG PAG AAPRUBA KAYA MINARAPAT KONG DITO NALANG IPOST ANG SAGOT DAHIL MALAMANG AY HINDI MO YUN AAPRUBAHAN.

    ETO ANG SAGOT KO:

    Akala ko naman kung ano na itong blog na ito. Mapaglinlang pala. Ano kinalaman ng Topic mo tungkol sa RH BILL at kinunekta mo sa ibang topic??? pero para sa iyong kasiyahan. sagutin natin ang blog mo.
    1. Pinalalabas mo na may mga miyembro kami na masama.

    SA BIBLIA BA MAGING SA MGA UNANG CRISTIANO AY MGA MASASAMANG KASAMA DIN BA SILA AT ANO ANG GINAGAWA SA KANILA?

    1CORINTO 5:1-2 MB
    "1 Nakarating nga sa akin ang balitang mayroong KABILANG SA INYO na gumagawa ng IMORALIDAD; kinakasama niya ang asawa ng kanyang ama. Kahit mga pagano ay hindi gumagawa ng ganyang KAHALAYAN! 2 At nakukuha pa ninyong magmalaki! Dapat sana'y mahiya kayo at malungkot, at ang taong gumagawa ng ganoon ay dapat ninyong ITIWALAG!"

    Nakita mo na? Kahit pala noon ay may mga ganyan na sa mga unang cristiano. Kaya hindi nakakapagtaka at yung mga ganon ay itinitiwalag.

    Matanong ko nga sayo, may pagtitiwalag din ba sa inyo kagaya ng ginagawa ng Iglesia??? Dahil kung bibilangin mo ang masasamang tao eh napakarami ng sa inyo. kahit nga sa Vatican kalat na kalat ang kahihiyan ng mga obispo nyo eh.

    Dagdagan pa natin.

    2 Tim 4:10, 14-15 MB

    "10 INIWAN na ako ni Demas dahil sa PAGKAHUMALING niya sa sanlibutan; pumunta siya sa Tesalonica. Si Cresente naman ay nagpunta sa Galacia, at si Tito sa Dalmacia."

    "NAPAKASAMA ng ginawa sa akin ni Alejandrong panday. Ang Panginoon ang magpaparusa sa kanya ayon sa kanyang ginawa. 15 Mag-ingat ka sa kanya, sapagkat tutol na tutol siya sa ipinapangaral natin."

    Pati pala kasama mismo ni Pablo ay may mga masasama din, ano ginawa sa knila ni Pablo?

    1 Tim 1:20 MB
    "Kabilang sa mga iyon sina Himeneo at Alejandro, kaya IPINAUBAYA ko na sila sa kapangyarihan ni Satanas upang matigil na ang kanilang paglapastangan sa Diyos."

    Kaya yang mga atake mo sa INC eh luma na yan.
    At hindi mo pwedeng sabihin na hindi tunay samahan dahil lang sa may masasamang kasama dahil lalabas hindi tunay na samahan ang ipinapangaral ni Cristo at ng mga apostol.
    Dahil si Cristo ngs mismo may nag HUDAS sa kanya eh. Kaya mababaw ang argumento mo at walang sustansya. Masyado ka kasing mapangahas. Dahil lang hindi pumabor sa inyo ang usapin sa RH Bill eh dinaan mo na sa mas masamang paraan.


    At tungkol naman kay Kapatid na Felix,
    MAtagal nang tapos ang kasong yan kaibigan. MAtapang na hinarap ng kapatid ang kaso at hindi nahatulan dahil sa kahinaan ng ebidensya. Kahit ang nagakusa ay umamin na inimbento lang nila ang mga paratang.

    Kung gusto mo para gumaan ang loob mo (dahil mukahang ang bigat ng kalooban mo sa mga INC eh.) pabuksan mo ulit ang kaso at ilatag mo ang mga ebidensiyang hawak mo kaysa naman dito ka nagngangangawa sa internet eh walang maniniwala sayo niyan lumalabas na naninirang puri ka lang.

    At ang ginagawa mo eh hindi na bago sa Iglesia yan. BAKIT???

    BASAHIN MO:
    2 Cor. 6:8
    "Naranasan naming maparangalan at SIRAAN NG PURI, ANG LAITIN at papurihan. KAMI'Y ITINURING SA SINUNGALING, gayong totoo naman ang aming sinasabi;"

    HIndi na pala bago ang ginagawa mo sa amin dahil kahit si PAblo pala ay naranasan din ang katulad ng ginagawa mo sa aming Kapatid.


    PEACE BE WITH YOU!!!

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  36. una sa lahat anong blog ng RH bill?

    kaso ni f.manalo para sa iyong kaalaman ay unclosed case, kuwestyonable nga yung affidavit of retraction ni ms. trillanes dahil paragraph 2 sinabi nya na natalo sya sa korte?

    imposible dahil yung libel ni f. manalo panalo sya at ito ang batayang hindi si trillanes ang may gawa

    nalinlang kayo

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  37. EDI PABUKSAN MO ULIT ANG KASO, KWESTYONABLE PALA EH. DUN MO PATUNAYAN SA KORTE MGA SINASABI MO. DUN KA MAG NGANGANGAWA. PAG NAIPANALO MO ANG ANG KASO BUMALIK KA DITO AT SAKA MO SABIHIN SA AMIN NA NALINLANG KAMI. HINDI YUNG DITO NGAWA KA NG NGAWA.
    PAG DI MO NAPATUNAYAN, MANINIRANG PURI KA LANG AT LALO LAMANG LUMILITAW ANG AMING KAHALALAN.

    PEACE BE WITH YOU!

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  38. Anonymous,

    Bakit mo isasama ang Iglesia Ni Cristo, diyan. Bakit kasama ba kami na gumawa nyan. Ibig bang sabihin ay mamatay tao din kami. Kasi kapag sinabi mo na Iglesia Ni Cristo, it means tumutukoy ka sa kabuuan. Tao ang may kasalanan at hindi ang Iglesia Ni Cristo. Hindi nyo dapat ilagay na Iglesia Ni Cristo ang pumatay dahil hindi naman ito ang nagplano at pumatay. Walang kinalaman ang buong Iglesia diyan sa mga paratang ninyo.

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  39. KAIBIGAN said @ INC ako,.. Tama ka kapatid, ayaw lang talagang unawain ng mga taong WALANG BAIT, D naman pwede husgahan ang isang samahan lalo nat pang relihiyon ayun sa kanilang kaanib, ang dapat talagang patunayang mali ay sa ARAL hindi sa TAO. Kasi nga lalabas na pati ung itinatag ng panginoon jesus ay hindi rin tunay at walang kaligtasan. Wala naman siguro may MATINONG pag iisip na tatanggap nito. Kaya nga sa INC tinuturuan muna o dinodoktrinahan muna ang sino mang gustong maging kaanib, dito ipanauunawa ang mga ARAL ( hindi ung ibabatikos o ksiraan ng ibang tao ). kaya bakit d na lang sa mga aral mag konsentrate itong si ANONYMOUS. Ok sabihin paman na may masasamang kaanib. ibig bang sabihin nuon masama na ang INC sa kabuuan? Ganun din kaya pag may isang pilipino na masama eh lahat na ng pilipino masama?tsk tsk tsk, lawak lawakan naman ang pang unawa, wag lang ung basta makabatikos.

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  40. Hindi kc niya alam ang totoong nangyari eh. Para siyang nakapulot ng chismis na hindi naman tlaga niya naiintindihan. Nakakapagtaka lang, dahil mismong si Ka Rosita na mismo ang umamin na hindi totoo ang mga paratang niya at namatay na masiglang kaanib sa INC. Tapos lilitaw ang isang chismosa at sasabihin totoo daw ang paratang. hahaha. Mas marunong pa siya sa may katawan at siya ang apektadong apektado sa nangyari, pagkatapos ay magkakalat sa internet. At sasabihing nalinlang tayo.hahahah. Sino ba ang dapat naming paniwalaan, Si KA Rosita na siyang may katawan at umamin sa totong nangyari o si jane na nkikisawsaw lang sa chismis??? ESEP ESEP.

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  41. bakit bawal daw po mga homosekswal o bisekswal sa INC? pasagot naman po! Thanks! God Bless mga Kapatid!

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  42. 1 CORINTO 6:9 SND
    "Ang mga hindi matuwid ay hindi magmamana ng paghahari ng Diyos. Hindi ba ninyo alam iyan? Huwag kayong magpadaya. Ang mga nakikiapid, ang mga sumasamba sa diyos-diyosan, ang mga mangangalunya, ang mga BAKLA, ang mga gumagamit sa kapwa lalaki ay hindi magmamana ng paghahari ng Diyos."


    1 CORINTHIANS 6:9 GOD'S WORDS TRANSLATION
    "Don’t you know that wicked people won’t inherit the kingdom of God? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, HOMOSEXUALS,"

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  43. Ukol po sa post ng http://pinoycourier.blogspot.com/2011/04/iglesia-ni-cristo-pro-rh-bill.html

    Hindi po kinakaila yun ng INC. Di naman kami nagmamalinis kaya nga kami nasa INC dahil di po kami PERFECTO.

    Abay kung gayun kami abay di na namin kailangan ang INC dahil mala CRISTO na kami kung gayon my gulay.

    Abay HINDI po kami gayon. Kaya nga kung meron mga kapatiran ministro man o hindi at nagkasala ng gayun abay TINITIWALAG po sila.

    Hindi po kami TULAD NG KATOLIKO na NANGAHASA na ng mga MENOR DE EDAD hindi lang isa kungdi SANGKATERBA pa.

    Abay PINAGTATANGOL pa ng AUTORIDAD KATOLIKO di po ba? abay hindi naman kami yun NA BANKRUPT sa pagbabayad ng ASUNTO bunga ng KAMUNDUHAN po ng mga PARI ninyo.

    Mahigit sa kalahating BILYONG DOLYAR yun my gulay. Ganun ka LUPET GUMASTOS ang KATOLIKO para lagn IPAGTANGOL yun mga RAPIST na PARI nila at mga PEDOPHILEs di po ba?

    Search po kayo sa internet o ito mga dearest basahin ninyo yan.

    http://www.spokesmanreview.com/sections/diocese/

    http://www.jsonline.com/features/religion/112878494.html

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/19/national/main5395517.shtml

    Ang mga INC na nagkasala sa mga gayun po TINITITWALAG hindi po tulad ng KATOLIKO na TINUTUSTUSAN ang pagTATANGOL sa mga RAPIST at PEDOPHILEs nila. Imbis ITIWALAG abay NILILIPAT lang pala nila.

    Kaya ayun tulad pa rin ang mga KAMUNDUHAN ng mga PARI nila. Di po ba?

    Kaya ganun po KALAKI ang BINABAYAD nila. NagFILE ng BANKRUPTCY para di MAUBOS ang pera nila.

    Iyon po ang PAGKAKAIBA namin sa KATOLIKO mga dearest.

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  44. Aerial


    1.Church is from the Greek in the DICTIONARY


    `the Whole BODY of Christians.. those BELONGING to or PERTAINING to the LORD


    2. the concept of Church is only seen 2 times in the Gospels


    Mathew 16:18 which is NOT referring to the CATHOLIC church or any EARTHLY church or congregation

    Its here referring to the SPIRITUAL EXTERNAL church which the GATES of HELL will NOT prevail against

    The other usage of CHURCH is in Mathew 18:20

    Where 2 or 3 are GATHERED in MY(JESUS) name, there I(JESUS) an in the midst of`

    JESUS is doing the GATHERING of HIS children and ONLY HIS SPIRIT is there if HE so does GATHER them!


    Church can be as small as 2 or 3 GATHERED in HIS name and HIS SPIRIT will be with them TEACHING them THROUGH HIS WORD


    . this FALSE doctrine came out of the mind of a FALSE PRPOHET named FELIX!

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  45. Eric dearest says "Mathew 16:18 which is NOT referring to the CATHOLIC church or any EARTHLY church or congregation"

    Well, we KNOW that the CATHOLIC church is never mentioned in the bible dearest.

    But on your other point "ny EARTHLY church or congregation" well that would be your MISGUIDED thinking dear Eric.

    Surely those who were greeting one another in Romans 16:16 points to the CHURCHes of CHRIST.

    They are OBVIOUSLY those BELONGING to or PERTAINING to the LORD or simply THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. That SIMPLE Eric dear.

    Come again Eric dear you say "Its here referring to the SPIRITUAL EXTERNAL church which the GATES of HELL will NOT prevail against"

    Now that would be your MISGUIDED THINKING dear. The does not STATE what you are TRYING to INJECT my dear.

    It simple refers to the Church FOUNDED by Christ which will the GATES of HELL will NOT PREVAIL against it.

    Eric dearest states :

    "JESUS is doing the GATHERING of HIS children and ONLY HIS SPIRIT is there if HE so does GATHER them!"

    Really? what verse in the bible did you get this dear Eric???

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  46. Disgusted with INC FALSE DOCTRINES19 November 2011 at 02:55

    Who do you think opens Spiritual eyes and ears??


    Who do you think INSPIRES one to READ the Bible??

    Who do you think puts the LAW of GOD on ones HEART??
    IT AINT MAN..lol

    God puts FAITH(JESUS) in ones life


    The Bible says


    NO ONE SEEKETH HIM

    HE SEEKETH us


    HE CALLS US


    Dont you know these verses ??


    Must i show you where they are DEAREST??

    GOD WILL HAVE MERCY UPON WHOM HE WILL HAVE MERCY on


    Man doesnt DECIDE whom is SAVED by his actions or lack of actions


    God can SAVE anyone anytime anywhere hE so DESIRES


    DEARETST lol

    Enough with your sarcastic DEAREST

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    1. sure!

      God opens the eyes of those that He sends to His words and commandments.but don´t be foolish. even the Devil tried using the Bible on Lord Christ. even the Devil can use the Bible and even the Devil can use miracles. and i´m sure you can find these in the Bible ´cause you are so knowledgeable on it. well, that´s what you try to claim anyway.

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  47. So can you prove now Eric that the country of Philippines is not mentioned in the Bible?

    Don't ever forget that, that is the title of this thread?

    I am still waiting for your "POINT BY POINT" REBUTTAL to Bro. Aerial's response to you in the other thread.

    Kindly answer this question:

    1. IF IT'S NOT THE PHILIPPINES WHICH IS THE FAR COUNTRY IN THE FAR EAST WHICH IS COMPOSED OF ISLANDS ACCORDING TO THE BOOK OF ISAIAH, WHICH COUNTRY IT IS? AND WHO IS THE RAVENOUS BIRD THAT IS MENTIONED IN THE PROPHECY?

    2. In the verse Romans 9:15 which says:

    Romans 9:15 "For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. [King James Version]"

    Why are you OMITTING the PHRASE: "FOR HE SAITH TO MOSES"? Are you denying the TRUTH that this statement of God that he said was during MOSES' TIME, and not in the Christian Era?

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  48. Bumabati po ng maganda araw sa inyo mga kapatid mula sa lokal ng Pensacola! Mabuhay..

    for it is written.. they have eyes but cannot see.. they have ears but cannot hear...:)

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  49. Hello po… Sa mga kapatid sa INC sa buong mundo… musta na po kayo?.. ako ay mula sa local ng Khafji, K.S.A.
    SA mga tumutuligsa at sa mga nagsusuri… malapit na ang panahon ng pagtawag sa inyo ng Diyos kaya ganoon na lang ang iyong pag iisip...Tandaan po natin ang Diyos ang tagapagligtas… hindi ang iglesia… bagkus ang ililigtas ng Diyos ay ang Iglesia… Sapagkat ito ang tamang kaparaan ng Diyos sa kaligtasan… Ang mga taong pumapasok sa iglesia ay yaong mga “tinatawag” o dinaragdag sa Iglesia na ililigtas Niya… Sa mga taong handang humingi ng kapatawaran at kilalanin niya ang kanyang kasalanan, ang pagsisisi na bukal sa kanyang puso at handang sumunod, maglingkod para sa Kanya…At kilalanin niya ang iisang tunay na Diyos ay ang AMA at ang kanyang anak na si Jesucristo na panginoon natin, na Kanyang sinugo para tayo ay tubusin sa ating mga kasalanan… Sana maunawaan ninyo ito… lahat tayo ay may pagkakasala sa harap ng Diyos. Ang kasalanan ang siyang nagtakip ng kanyang mukha sa atin para ang Diyos ay hindi makinig sa atin mga panalangin… Walang ibang paraan para muli tayo(bilang tao) ay makapagbalik loob sa Diyos… kundi ang matubos ng mahalagang dugo ni Cristo… Ang tinubos ng dugo ni Cristo ay walang iba kundi ang iglesia ni Cristo.(gawa:20:28)…
    Kaya nga… Sana katulad din ng ibang pang mga dati (mga kapatid na ngayon) ay tinawag at nakaunawa na sa mga aral ng Iglesia ni Cristo… Sa bawat pag uusig na ginagawa ninyo at sa mga iba pang mga kababayan natin na katulad ng ginagawang panglalait sa Iglesia ay hindi kami ang ang iyong inuusig kundi ang ating panginoong Jesucristo mismo… Dahil kami ay “IGLESIA NI CRISTO”. Taglay ang banal na pangalan ni Cristo kaya hindi nakakapagtaka kung magagalit, masusuya, o magdaramdam kayo sa amin… Ang panginoong JesuCristo man ay inusig ng kanyang sariling mga kababayang Hudyo… Dahil sa pag sunod sa kalooban ng Tunay na Diyos na nagsugo sa kanya… Wala kaming ginawang masama sa bawat isa sa inyo. Kundi ang sumunod sa mga aral na nasa Biblia na ipabalita ang pagliligtas ng Diyos sa kanyang Iglesia. Dahil sa pag sunod sa mga aral na nasa biblia na isa lamang ang tunay na Diyos at iyon ay ang Ama.. at ang kanyang Iglesia ay kanyang ililigtas… hindi ninyo matanggap dahil hindi pa ninyo nalalaman ang katotohanan ng mga lihim na panukala ng Dios na natago sa lihim at hiwaga, datapuwat hindi sa mga nakakaalam na ng mga katotohanan…
    SANA BAGO TAYO MANLAIT AT MAG-AKUSA NG MGA MALING PARATANG AT PAGKILING SA MGA KASINUNGALINGAN AY SURIIN AT SALIKSIKIN NINYO MUNA ANG MGA ARAL NG BIBLIA…at kayo ang magpapasya!
    Ang apila ko lang sana ay tayo ay magbalik na loob sa Tunay na Diyos na sana kayo man ay matawag na rin sa loob ng Iglesia…at dito sama-sama nating sambahin ang iisang tunay na Diyos- ang AMA… Ang Diyos ng ating Panginoong JesuCristo at Diyos nating lahat!
    May awa ang Diyos sa atin… laging may puwang ang Kanyang pag-ibig at pagmamahal sa mga nagbabalik loob – katulad ng ginawa niya sa akin.
    Brother in Christ,
    -Khafji (Edwin B.)

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  50. ano po ba ang "Kumpil" na isinasagawa ng Katolisismo? nasusulat ba to sa Biblia?

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  51. Why is it that Iglesia ni Kristo always want to win arguments and debates...isn't it that God is love..so we should love one another?
    Even our detractors?
    The bible said...love your enemies as yourself.

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    1. see that guy?? the GOD is the FOCUS..

      it´s mainly because of him and many more of his kind that we feel the need to stress our point. we only want what´s best for you, for we talk about salvation and not condemnation. we profess the ways and the works that must be done (they are all Biblical) so we can GLORIFY GOD ´cause it´s His command that we tell the world the truth and the way which the world can be saved. if not, then we are as good as dead branches, we´d be the most selfish people on this planet. so if you have the time to read more from this blogspot, or if you have the luxury of time to consult or ask an INC minister, you would do your soul a great favor. even the angels rejoice for each soul that´s to be saved.

      Gian
      Mataas na kahoy
      Batangas, Philippines

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  52. GOD is the FOCUS ,, NOT MY WORKS9 December 2011 at 20:02

    To: last anonymous


    This NEED to win DEBATES is BECAUSE they FALSELY teach that NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON living today who is NOT a MEMBER of their CULT church has ANY chance to be SAVED!


    I mean just the thought of that is

    SCARY!!

    They instruct their brethren `NOT TO ASSICIATE with NON MEMBERS as if they themselves are HOLIER THAN THOU

    How little they as INC member know about God and HIS MERCY and GRACE upon


    ALL WHO REPENT!!


    You see for them the KEY is to be in THEIR CHURCH and to do WORKS like WATER BAPTISM and HOLY SUPPER.

    They can BOAST to all OUTSIDERS that `THEY did this or that to SHOW them and MOST IMPORTANTLY GOD

    That they did this and DESERVE SALVATION!

    How little they know of GOD!!


    TATOOS is a good example of an INC member


    What does one do when they have a TATOO?

    THEY ATTRACT OTHERS to FOCUS on the TATOO and in such a WAY to ``FOCUS ON ME``!!!

    When God says to GIVE ALL PRAISE AND GLORY to HIM!!

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    1. repent, repent, repent.

      sure! one should repent. but what good is there when you repent but then you don´t do the commandments?? what good is there when you have faith when you don´t have the works? you´re only giving yourself a reason so you can live by your sins. you people only want what´s there at your disposal, at your luxury. TO SALVATION, INC!!

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  53. sa lahat po ng mga hindi pa inc, pumasok po kayo sa pintuan na ang tinutukoy po na pintuan ay ang ating panginoon jesus cristo. huwag po kayo matakot hindi po mamamatay tao ang inc kundi mapagbigay sa tama na at tunay na kaligtasan.ang tunay na nagmamahal na magulang ay tinuturuan ang anak ng tama upang hindi magkasala at mapahamak, mas lalo na po ang diyos ayaw na ama na mapahamak tayo.pasalamatan natin ang tunay na diyos at hindi iyong diyos diyosan.

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  54. hindi lang mayaman ang tunay na pinagpala; kahit nakatawid lang sa pang araw2, iyong napakalawak iyong pagkakilala kay panginoong jesus, matibay ang paniniwala sa diyos at nasa tunay ka na iglesia, iglesia ni cristo. kaya walang dahilan na sa mga santo tayo magpasalamat. sana huwag natin hintayin na maglindol nang malakas at mahulugan ka ng santo ninyo baka diyan mo pa makikilala na kahoy pala ito tuloy nasugatan ang ulo..kaylangan paba pag aralan natin para malaman natin na kahoy pala ito, libro pala ito, ginto pala ito. sana huwag natin hintayin na magkasunog baka imbes na ikaw ang iligtas ng santo mo eh baka ikaw pa ang magligtas sa santo mo at baka siya pa ang pasalamatan mo pagka naligtas ka.isi isip

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  55. Kuya totoo ba eto?

    When I raised the issue on Rosita Trillanes, someone in this group responded to me by posting the purported “retraction” of Trillanes. I pointed out that said retraction does not serve any fathomable legal purpose whatsoever. A recantation, retraction or desistance should be executed and filed before the prosecution files a criminal information in court. In the Trillanes case, however, that cannot be legally possible, for the following reasons:

    1. Manalo was the private complainant. He should have been the one who executed and filed an affidavit of desistance or retraction.

    2. The case was already filed in court. In fact, the case reached the Court of Appeals where Trillanes was acquitted. The appellate court upheld Trillanes and categorically called Manalo “a man of low morals” (“un hombre de baja moral’).

    3. The retraction was executed by Trillanes many years after the dismissal of the case."

    The point that Trillanes remained a deaconess until her death, after the scandal that she caused, struck me. Why would a self-confessed liar be allowed to serve in the church as deaconess? In 1 Timothy 3:10, Apostle Paul provides the qualifications for the office of deacon: “And let these also be proved; then let them use the office of a deacon, being found blameless. Even so must their wives be grave, not slanderer, sober, faithful in all things.” You consider a self-confessed liar blameless? Manalo himself considered Trillanes a libeler, in fact he filed a criminal case against her for libel. Then, why would she be appointed as deaconess even if she does not qualify as one who is “not a slanderer.”? You consider a conspirator against the church like Trillanes as “faithful in all things”? The doubt continues to linger in the air that her retraction can be construed as a quid pro quo for her position as deaconess.
    This is not to mention the undue influence and tremendous power Manalo formidably wielded during that time, both as the Sugo, Founder and Executive Minister of his church."

    Was Rosita Trillanes a hapless rape victim or was she not telling the truth? If she was, what can we possibly make out of the self-proclaimed angel, Felix Ysagun Manalo? Why did his libel case against Rosita thrown out the window? Did Felix Manalo really took advantage of his position, raped, and beat her up?

    Accusations of sexual immorality plagued Felix Manalo through out His life. In a decision by the Court of Appeals, in the case of "The People vs. Rosita Trillanes" published in July 1942, (A court case initiated by Manalo) the Justices gave an extremely unfavorable estimate of Manalo's character stating:

    "...Manalo, took advantage of his position as head of the Iglesia ni Cristo, and...employed religion as a cloak to cover his...immoral practices; that he pretended to be the Messias sent by God; and that to persuade his victims, he cited the example of Solomon and his many wives"

    Official Gazette, Volume 1 No. 7, July 1942, pages 393-395.

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  56. Felix is NO LAST MESSENGER15 December 2011 at 16:02

    And THIS is the LAST MESSENGER sent by GOD??



    Is it NECESSARY to argue anymore as to whether this FELIX is a CON man and LIAR??

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  57. Aerial Cavalry,

    Astig!!! Even the time of you posted was 19:14, it was awesome... Embes na magtrabaho aq eh nagbabasa aq ng BLOG... Okey lng worth reading, pashare sa mga kaworkmate ko d2 sa UAE.

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  59. Binabati ko po ang lahat ng kapatid ntin na iglesia ni cristo sa buong mundo happy new year mula po d2 sa lokal ng midland Singapore....at sa Mga kaibayo ntin sa pananampalataya pangunawa at kapayapaan po ang hangad nmin sa inyo nawa ay makasama nmin kau sa tunay na paglilingkod sa dios at sa ating panginoong Jesu cristo.....

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  60. mga kapatid lahat po ng mga sinasabi nila na masama laban kay kapatid na Felix Y Manalo ay pawang paninira at walang katotohanan,,,,..

    hindi po tayo dapat magtaka kung ang Sugo po ay kinasuhan noon na umabot di umano sa Court of Appeals...nababalita sa diyaryo..at kung anu-ano pa.

    Katuparan lamang po ito sa naka sulat sa Biblia na kung paanong ang ating panginoong JESUKRISTO ay inusig noon...tayo man ay pag-uusigin din,...at hindi po ito nagka bula sa kapatid na Felix Y Manalo..
    Ginawa po ng mga kumakaaway sa Iglesia ang lahat nilang magagwa para usigin at hadlangan ang iglesia,...pero sila po ay nabigo at patuloy na mabibigo.

    MABUHAY ANG IGLESIA NI CRISTO!

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    1. ni maging ang Panginoong Hesus ay nakaranas din ng ganyan nung kapanahunan pa niya, mga persecutions. wag magambala mga kapatid. tama ang landas na tinatahak natin. huwag kayong magpapaiwan! at naway wag silang mapagsarhan. HAPPY 98th ANNIVERSARY MGA KAPATID! naway makapagbunga pa kayo dito! pagpatuloy! pagpatuloy! TO SALVATION, INC!

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  61. SA MGA NAGTATANONG KUNG BAKIT PAGKATAPOS NG KAPATID NA FELIX MANALO AY ANG KAPATID NA ERANO MANALO ANG NAMAMAHALA SA IGLESIA,...AT NANG ITO AY PAGPAPAHINGAHIN NG DIOS AY ANG KAPATID NA EDUARDO MANALO ANG PUMALIT SA KANYA..

    TANONGIN NYO PO ANG DIOS KUNG BAKIT NILOOB NIYA NA PAGKATAPOS NIYANG ILAGAY SI DAVID BILANG HARI NG ISRAEL AY SI SOLOMON ANG PUMALIT SA KANIYA
    BILANG HARI..AT ANG PUMALIT NAMAN KAY SOLOMON AY ANG ANAK NITO PAGKATAPOS NIYA..

    ITO PO AY PATAKARAN NG DIOS NOON PA PO AY GANITO
    NA ANG PARAAN NG DIOS.

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  62. Hello Brother Arial

    Pwede po bang makahingi ng kopya ng video debate sa Visalia, USA. Si kapatid na Jose Ventelacion ang sa panig ng INC at ang sa kabila naman ay si Jesse Romerong L.A.(Catholic)

    Baka pwede lang po...Salamat po.


    Kapatid na Khafji...

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  63. Eric is such a shame sanlibutan....thanks kapatid na Aerial for this blog ^^ God bless..

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  64. Isaiah 46:11 "Calling a ravenous bird from the east..."

    Is it really Bro Manalo?? Does the Bible failed to fulfill this prophesy prior the closing of New Testament?

    Before this prophetic message came, what is the condition of Judah (Southern Kingdom w/ 2 Tribes)?
    Please read Isaiah 39:1-8 (Prophesy of the fall of Jerusalem to Babylon during the reign of Hezekiah, King of Judah)

    But before this Prophesy happen, God anointed a man not belonging to the Tribe of Israel…
    Isa 45:1 Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
    Isa 45:2 “I will go before thee….”
    Isa 45:3 And I will give thee the treasures of darkness, and hidden riches of secret places, that thou mayest know that I, the LORD, which call thee by thy name, am the God of Israel.
    Isa 45:4 For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine elect, I have even called thee by thy name: “I have surnamed thee”, though thou hast not known me.
    >> He was called for the sake of Jacob / Israel, God’s elect…

    >> He was appointed by God to build the City (Prophetic message bec Jerusalem was not yet destroyed)
    Isa 45:13 I have raised him up in righteousness, and I will direct all his ways: he shall build my city, and he shall let go my captives, not for price nor reward, saith the LORD of hosts.

    >> And this man will come from the East!!
    Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.

    Prophet Isaiah has not seen its fulfillment, then another Prophet came named Jeremiah…
    Jer 32:36 And now therefore thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, concerning this city, whereof ye say, It shall be delivered into the hand of the king of Babylon by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence;
    Jer 32:37 Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:
    >> Almost the same prophesy given by Isaiah but includes the re-gathering of Israel…

    >> Then the fulfillment!!! (Jeremiah Chapter 52)
    2Ch 36:20 And them that had escaped from the sword carried he away to Babylon; where they were servants to him and his sons until the reign of the kingdom of Persia:
    2Ch 36:21 “To fulfil the word of the LORD by the mouth of Jeremiah…”
    2Ch 36:22 Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the LORD spoken by the mouth of Jeremiah might be accomplished, the LORD stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,
    2Ch 36:23 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, All the kingdoms of the earth hath the LORD God of heaven given me; and he hath charged me to build him an house in Jerusalem, which is in Judah. Who is there among you of all his people? The LORD his God be with him, and let him go up.

    Prophesy of Isaiah Fulfilled:
    Isa 44:28 That saith of Cyrus, He is my shepherd, and shall perform all my pleasure: even saying to Jerusalem, Thou shalt be built; and to the temple, Thy foundation shall be laid.

    Isaiah 46:11 Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed it, I will also do it.
    >> What country is at the east, far side of Israel / Jerusalem??? It is Persia (Iran)!!!
    >> Then who is that Ravenous bird?? He is Cyrus, King of Persia!!!
    >> You can verify this from the Bible, History writings and other informative site you prefer…

    It doesn't matter whether Philippines is mentioned or not, but the way the Bible is interpreted!!... :)

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    1. then please verify that Persia is made of isles.. because Philippines is also at the FAR SIDE OF ISRAEL, or however you want to call it, Zion or Jerusalem. and please tell me something that wouldn´t make Brother Felix a ravenous bird? ´cause i´d like to think of him as a ravenous bird based on how he robbed (snatch) us out of our misery and taught us of the Counsel of God. Sure, you´ve made your point with Persia and Cyrus. Now make your way on how you can make me disbelieve Brother Felix. And if you were really a previous INC member, ACTS OF LAGUNA, then you will have no hardship, difficulties, or whatsoever, complying with my dare on my perspective, on an INC perspective. :)
      TO SALVATION INC!

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  65. Napakapalad po ng Plipnas na siyang ka2paran ng hula,lubos po akong sumasampalataya na ang Iglesia Ni Cristo na lumitaw noong 1914 ay tunay at katuparan ng hula,sana matanggap ito ng buong sangkatauhan upang makabahagi sa pagsusugo ng Diyos sa huling araw!

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  66. ACTS of Laguna1 July 2012 at 12:36

    "Blessed is the Nation whose God is the LORD"...

    A sure word of God.... not a guess.

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  67. SALAMAT SA PAG POST KA AERIALS. MRAMI AKONG NATUTUTUNAN AT NAUUNAWAAN SA BLOG NA ITO.. GODBLESS,, SA AMA ANG KAPURIHAN..

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  68. mga kapatid ko sa Iglesia. katanungan lang po. alam ko po at sinasampalatayanan kong lubos na sa atin ang pangako ng Ama. pero tunay nga po ba na minamahal ng Ama ang buong mundo? kasi ako po, isinasama ko ang mga minimisyon ko sa panalangin ko, na ipakita ng Ama sa kanila ang Kanyang dakilang pagibig at tawagin naman sila sa Iglesia nang sila ay makabahagi sa kaligtasan na ukol sa Kanyang mga hinirang.

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  69. kamatayan nga hindi makakapanaig samin, kayo pa kaya. XD LOL lang.

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  70. Teodorico P. Asuncion12 September 2012 at 11:12

    Nais kung ibahagi sa inyo mga kaibigan na ang ating Inang Bayang Pilipinas ang siyang pinagpalang Bayan ng ating Mahal na Panginoon dahil ang Pilipinas ang siyang magiging BAGONG JERUSALEM sa hinaharap at pinagpala din tayong mga Pilipino dahil tayo ang pili ng ating mahal na AMA sa kaitaasan na tayong mga Pilipino ang magiging alagad ng ating mahal na PANGINOONG Amang Dr. Jose Rizal sa kanyang ikalawang pagkabuhay at pagbabalik dito sa lupa sa katauhang KRISTONG TAGALOG na buhay at para matupad na ang PROPESIYA na ang kaganapang pinakahihintay ng buong mundo sa ikalawang pagkabuhay at pagbabalik ni KRISTO dito sa lupa ay sa Pilipinas ang kaganapan na siyang magiging BAGONG JERUSALEM sa hinaharap.Huwag na tayong magtatalo sa anumang bagay ang pakaisipin natin tayo'y mga Pilipino na dapat magkakaisa anuman ang ating pananampalataya.

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  71. Teodorico P. Asuncion13 September 2012 at 14:11

    Ang ating Inang Bayang Pilipinas ay nasa Bibliya at " OPHIR " ang tawag sa Sina Unang Pangalan ng mga Isla ng Pilipinas.Matutunghayan sa Lumang Tipan.
    1 KINGS - 9:28 -; 10:11 -; 22 :48
    1 CHRONICLES - 29:4;
    2. CHRINICLES - 8:18;
    BOOK OF JOB - 22:24; 28:16;
    PSALMS. 45: 9;
    ISAIAH. 13: 12;
    Ang unang Templo ng Jerusalem na ipinagawa ni Haring Solomon ay gawa sa ginto at pilak na dala ng mga barkong TARSHISH at lahat nanggaling sa " OPHIR " na ang tawag ngayon ay Pilipinas.

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  72. The term Far East was popularized during the period of the British Empire. meaning not the old Far East. In 1939 Prime Minister once said
    "The problems of the Pacific are different. What Great Britain calls the Far East is to us the near north."
    and what other said ..Concerning the term, John K. Fairbank and Edwin O. Reischauer, professors of East Asian Studies at Harvard University, wrote (in East Asia: The Great Tradition): "When Europeans traveled far to the east to reach Cathay, Japan and the Indies, they naturally gave those distant regions the general name 'Far East.' Meaning Isaah is not referring to to this modern day Far East. But to Alexander the Great it is PERSIA. where Cyrus the ravenous bird came from.

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  73. The word MIZRACH is definitely not the Philippines.
    this simple iphone apps will help you find where mizrach is
    http://www.rustybrick.com/iphone-mizrach.php

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    1. Just who told you that we believe that the Philippines is the Mizrach mentioned in the book of Isaiah. The Philippines is in Mizrach - Far East, and not Mizrach itself.

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  74. Clarke's Commentary on Isaiah 46:11

    Calling a ravenous bird from the east "Calling from the east the eagle" - A very proper emblem for Cyrus, as in other respects, so particularly because the ensign of Cyrus was a golden eagle, ΑΕΤΟΣ χρυσους, the very word עיט ayit, which the prophet uses here, expressed as near as may be in Greek letters. Xenoph. Cyrop. lib. 7 sub. init. Kimchi says his father understood this, not of Cyrus, but of the Messiah.

    From a far country "From a land far distant" - Two MSS. add the conjunction ו vau, ומארץ umeerets; and so the Septuagint, Syriac, and Vulgate.
    Barnes' Notes on Isaiah 46:11

    Calling a ravenous bird from the east - There can be no doubt that Cyrus is intended here (see the notes at Isaiah 41:2, Isaiah 41:25). The east here means Persia. The word rendered 'ravenous bird' (עיט ‛ayiṭ) is rendered 'fowl' in Job 28:7; 'bird' or 'birds' in Jeremiah 12:9; 'fowls' in Genesis 15:11; Isaiah 18:6; and 'ravenous birds' in Ezekiel 39:4. It does not occur elsewhere in the Bible. It is used here as an emblem of a warlike king, and the emblem may either denote the rapidity of his movements - moving with the flight of an eagle; or it may denote the devastation which he would spread - an emblem in either sense especially applicable to Cyrus. It is not uncommon in the Bible to compare a warlike prince to an eagle Jeremiah 49:22; Ezekiel 17:3; and the idea here is, probably, that Cyrus would come with great power and velocity upon nations, like the king of birds, and would pounce suddenly and unexpectedly upon his prey. Perhaps also there may be here allusion to the standard or banner of Cyrus. Xenophon (Cyrop. vii.) says that it was a golden eagle affixed to a long spear; and it is well remarked by Lowth, that Xenophon has used the very word which the prophet uses here, as near as could be, expressing it in Greek letters. The word of the prophet is עיט ‛ayiṭ; the Greek word used by Xenophon is ἀετὸς aetos. The Chaldee has, however, given a different rendering to this passage: 'I, who say that I will gather my captivity from the east, and will lead publicly like a swift bird from a distant land the sons of Abraham, my friend.'

    The man that executeth my counsel - Margin, as Hebrew, 'Of my counsel.' It may either mean the man whom he had designated by his counsel; or it may mean the man who should execute his purpose.

    Yea, I have spoken - He spake it by the prophets; and the idea is, that all that he had spoken should be certainly accomplished.
    Wesley's Notes on Isaiah 46:11

    46:11 A bird - Cyrus, called a bird for his swiftness, and ravenous for his fierceness, and victoriousness over his enemies.

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  75. http://www.psquare.org/press/?p=190

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  76. Felix manalo the ravenous bird? A ravenous bird kills. How felix manalo kills? thru luring souls to his small lie of capitalizing "i"glesia ni Cristo making it a proper noun. A ravenous bird kills. It fits their claim by bringing souls to hell.

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  77. Napanuud ko yun debate ng Iglesya at ng RCC sa ibang bansa na pinangungunahan ni Jesse Romero ng RCC at si Jose Ventilacion.

    Akala ko un mga iglesya makaka score sila na mas amataas kesa sa RCC. nung pinanuud ko halos hindi nila masagot ang mga tanong ng RCC kgaya ng sino ang naghatid ng Kristyanismo sa Pilipinas?

    halos namula sa khhyan kung saan kukuha ng isasagot si Jose Ventilacion dahl ang nagdala ng Kristyanismo sa Pilipinas ay ang RCC ng Espanya.
    sinundan pa ni Romero kung nasaan sila sa mga siglo nung early AD at sino ang mga bishop nila nung mga time ng early christianity.

    Zero po sila sa record. dahl ang iglesya ni Cristo ay lumitaw lang nung 1914. kya wala silang maisagot sa tanong n yan.

    kung ssbhin nila nag re-emerge lalo sila bubulusok sa ibaba kpg ganun ang katwiran nila.

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